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Old 12th Feb 2019, 20:24
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I have had no communication from Eurotunnel. As a holder of a Frequent Traveller account I would expect to be advised of any future possible difficulties. Maybe they are just keeping their heads down having assured me there would be no problems.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 20:29
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
I have had no communication from Eurotunnel. As a holder of a Frequent Traveller account I would expect to be advised of any future possible difficulties. Maybe they are just keeping their heads down having assured me there would be no problems.
Last time I checked their website (when I booked this weeks trip) they were saying that everything will be fine after Brexit, and even duty free allowances aren't going to be brought back. They appear to be living either in cloud cuckoo land or denial. Either way, I don't think they are the only business in the travel industry downplaying potential issues just to keep cash flow going - and lets face it, that's what it's all about.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 20:58
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
All of that is rubbish. If a GE can be set up in four weeks, so can a referendum. I don't believe we're getting one, for clarity, but I 'm bored rigid of people passing off their wish lists as facts. Same goes for EU federalisation. It's just a rallying cry for the hard of thinking.
One day, maybe, you will respond to a post you disagree with without including an insult of some form or another!
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:02
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
I wish you'd stop robotically repeating this. It's entirely irrelevant to the subject & the endless repetition is nothing more than teenage defiance.
Pot, kettles, black?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:04
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Originally Posted by MFC_Fly View Post
One day, maybe, you will respond to a post you disagree with without including an insult of some form or another!
We should live so long!
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:04
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Originally Posted by MFC_Fly View Post
One day, maybe, you will respond to a post you disagree with without including an insult of some form or another!
Last time we spoke, II told you I work in logistics, & you called me a dpd van driver. Glass houses & all that.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:12
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Originally Posted by virginblue View Post
Because the UK's approach to the EU has always been that the membership must be solely serving the UK's interest, not about a mutual benefit for all members. That's why things went south when the EEC morphed into the EU and EU policy became less focused on an economic union and more on a political union.
And what had the EU to do with "a mutual benefit for all members"? Have you asked the Greeks about that one?

...things went south when the EEC morphed into the EU and EU policy became less focused on an economic union and more on a political union.
From what I have heard, a certain Mr Soros (he who clearly puts his own benefits before any other 'members'!) has said that the EU could unravel faster than the USSR. The inevitable result for an entity that has 'show' democracy as an essential part of its existence? (You know the sort: You didn't vote properly last time so we must give you another chance to get it right.)
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:18
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
Last time we spoke, II told you I work in logistics, & you called me a dpd van driver. Glass houses & all that.
I made one comment in one post about you (because you refused to read what I actually wrote and repeatedly twisted my words, claiming that you were an 'expert' in the particular field). But you, on the other hand, insult people on a daily basis, either directly in response to someone's post that you disagree with or as a general insult to anyone that voted to leave the EU.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:25
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
And what had the EU to do with "a mutual benefit for all members"? Have you asked the Greeks about that one?


From what I have heard, a certain Mr Soros (he who clearly puts his own benefits before any other 'members'!) has said that the EU could unravel faster than the USSR. The inevitable result for an entity that has 'show' democracy as an essential part of its existence? (You know the sort: You didn't vote properly last time so we must give you another chance to get it right.)
Just to unpick the voluminous anti EU tropes in this billy doo.

Greece - shorthand for the EU maliciously shafting countries for the sake of it. Motives never offered, but assertion driven home. Greek profligacy never mentioned, Greek re-election of Alexis Tsipras on a pro Europe ticket never mentioned.

Soros = shorthand for Jew/. Shadowy anti democratic cabal, usually proffered by the same people who insist Russia didn't interfere in our own democratic process & scoff at anyone who does.

Voting again until you make the right decision - a greatest hit for the fans. Also nonsense, usually put about by red faced Kippers in reference to the Irish vote on the Lisbon treaty where in actual fact renegotiation took place to bring about reassurances on sovereignty but always punted as an example of the anti democratic EU & never with the detail I just mentioned., More below featuring old frog face being skewered by someone I sincerely wish worked on British telly.

Try facts Noel because I see you.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/ni...terview-video/
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:46
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That's a fun interview. Farage splurting out his usual rubbish and getting fact checked and proven wrong on the spot by the sassy presenter.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 22:38
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Originally Posted by virginblue View Post
That's a fun interview. Farage splurting out his usual rubbish and getting fact checked and proven wrong on the spot by the sassy presenter.
"Believe you me" he said - immediately after being proved wrong twice within one minute.

Like some on here, he is just obsessed with the dream that the EU might fail, to prove him right. In fact, recent polls in EU countries, like Ireland, have shown increased support for the EU. And that support will increase further as they watch Britain sinking beneath the cold Atlantic waves.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 23:02
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Conversely, when it comes to Farage, I believe he needs the uk to fail. He only thrives in chaos. By helping the country he claims to love to shuffle to the edge of an undeliverable fantasy, he creates the single set of conditions in which he can operate.

I genuinely believe in time we will find out the web of deceit that links him to Banks, Assange, .Trump, Yakovenko & all the others up to their necks in this mess. Lots out there but lots more to come.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 00:51
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
Just to unpick the voluminous anti EU tropes in this billy doo.

Greece - shorthand for the EU maliciously shafting countries for the sake of it. Motives never offered, but assertion driven home. Greek profligacy never mentioned, Greek re-election of Alexis Tsipras on a pro Europe ticket never mentioned.

Soros = shorthand for Jew/. Shadowy anti democratic cabal, usually proffered by the same people who insist Russia didn't interfere in our own democratic process & scoff at anyone who does.

Voting again until you make the right decision - a greatest hit for the fans. Also nonsense, usually put about by red faced Kippers in reference to the Irish vote on the Lisbon treaty where in actual fact renegotiation took place to bring about reassurances on sovereignty but always punted as an example of the anti democratic EU & never with the detail I just mentioned., More below featuring old frog face being skewered by someone I sincerely wish worked on British telly.

Try facts Noel because I see you.
You are employed by the European Commission, right?
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 06:18
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Soros = shorthand for Jew/. Shadowy anti democratic cabal
What's his religion got to do with it, I don't have a clue if he is of not.

Or are leavers going to be accused of being anti Catholic next.

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Old 13th Feb 2019, 07:10
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Those who are so adamant about a "no deal " departure, and the UK's rose tinted future, may wish to photo-shop images of themselves in lieu of those depicted.....

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-talks-cartoon

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Old 13th Feb 2019, 07:40
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
You are employed by the European Commission, right?
Of course.

All Remainers are, didn't you know ?
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 08:37
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Brexit never has an answer.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 08:43
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And that support will increase further as they watch Britain sinking beneath the cold Atlantic waves
The problem with many statements here is the use of dogmatic emotive language in their argument. The quote above is just one example.

As written this is a hard fact, the only thing that is true is that the Atlantic waves are cold.

And that support may increase further as they watch Britain should sinking beneath the cold Atlantic waves its economy weaken.

Does have quite such impact does it? I submit that it is more accurate though.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 09:09
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
The problem with many statements here is the use of dogmatic emotive language in their argument. The quote above is just one example.

As written this is a hard fact, the only thing that is true is that the Atlantic waves are cold.

And that support may increase further as they watch Britain should sinking beneath the cold Atlantic waves its economy weaken.

Does have quite such impact does it? I submit that it is more accurate though.
absolutely spot on PN. That's the problem with our Remainer friends, their minds are so closed to the possibility that brexit could be a success they automatically assume worst case disaster type scenarios in every case - a bit like project fear in fact!
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 09:15
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
Incidentally, this is interesting & what some of us, including me have been saying for a while. Now if only she had some form of national platform to share this revelation.


https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/1095283995208757248
yep, TM is doing a cracking job at doing not a lot at all. Apparently one of her sidekicks let slip in the pub that's she is basically just running down the clock and that it's still her deal or nowt.

Tickety tock...
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