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Old 26th Jan 2019, 19:52
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Sunday is a none starter for various religious issues. that includes counting.

plus its not going to give you what you want because all the youngsters will stay in bed with a hangover and all the auld feckers will be up bright and early and vote on the way to church.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 19:55
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Which will then just give even more whinging that everything is so so unfair.... the question.. the timing …. the weather.... the day of the week.... and then they would want a another GE vote and another ref because they lost yet again
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 20:27
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
Sunday is a none starter for various religious issues. that includes counting.
Eh??? What religious issues???

Ah, upon further reflection, you must be referring to the use of some church premises as polling stations - they might be a bit busy on Sundays. True enough, some adjustments would have to be make.

But that's not really different in kind to "sorry mate, you can't have our school hall this year, we've rented it out to a Judo club for Thursday evenings", and election staff deal with that stuff all the time.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 20:42
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No areas of the UK which get dismissed as trivial will have an issue about doing things on the sabbath. The Jewish community will also have issues on a Saturday.

The wee frees would be up and whinging to the Scottish parliament straight off but I am sure there would be others that would object.

Even if you had the vote on Sat the vote would need to be counted on Monday for issues not to be had.

I suppose you could say certain areas could vote on Sat and count on Monday but I expect there would be whinging about that . You will not get Lewis doing anything on Sunday,the feckers even take your TV away in the hotel when your down for breakfast if you don't take it with you.

Its Thursday for a reason.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 20:52
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BUt I can understand why you have said it. Its typical South of England it suits us and what is convenient for us and sod the rest of the UK... To be honest its one of the many reasons why that the UK is in the current situation and there is so many fantasy's that all it will take will be another ref and if it goes remains way by even 0,5% then that the matter sorted. Its far form being sorted. Yes there will be a lump in the SE which will be remain but the rest of the country will be leave with a load in Scotland remain.

Another ref will not solve anything, an extension will not solve anything. This is just going to keep churning until either the UK is out or enough damage is done that the EU fails. Leavers are not going to stop in the unlikely event that this attempt fails.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 20:58
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The remains really don't give a single thought about what's happening to the EU or the damage its taking through all of this. Or for that matter what the UK's status is going to be if its stays in. What magic wand they expect to be waved I really don't know.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:03
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
Even if you had the vote on Sat the vote would need to be counted on Monday for issues not to be had.
We have laws about Sunday working, I would expect them to be followed, I wouldn't expect anyone to be forced to work on a Sunday illegally just because there was an election on. Counting staff are usually casual labour hired for the session anyway, rather than council staff instructed to work in the middle of the night as part of their contract of employment, so anyone who doesn't want to work on a Sunday can simply choose not to apply for the position. (OK, so the returning officer has to be there, but that's an exceedingly part time role, not a job, and the role doesn't have to be done by the council chief exec if they don't want to do it.)
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:14
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you have two different legal systems about working on Sunday.

its not the counting staff that are an issue its the people that would claim that they couldn't take part in the vote if it was done on a Sat or Sunday . Either of those days your going to loose a large lump of your younger supporters that you hope to sway it in your direction anyway for none religious reasons. Even on weekdays they can't be bothered to move their backside to the polling booths and just whinge afterwards that its auld farts that have screwed their future.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:19
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The remains really don't give a single thought about what's happening to the EU or the damage its taking through all of this. Or for that matter what the UK's status is going to be if its stays in. What magic wand they expect to be waved I really don't know.
The Government has trashed the reputation of the UK for many, many years, and it far from over. Basically think how low can they go? .... and then go lower.... the depths to which they are stooping to is beyond farce and is directly damaging democracy. Not saying Labour are blameless but they aren't the ones in the driving seat. From what I can gather (from news reports and the net) the vast majority simply just want to leave and are sick to the teeth of all these shenanigans. Disclaimer: I'm not bothered either way.. doesn't affect me.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:31
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
the people that would claim that they couldn't take part in the vote if it was done on a Sat or Sunday
There are plenty who can't take part on a Thursday, eg due to work commitments. That's what postal and proxy votes are for.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:40
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crack on with your SE English priorities. And you wonder why the north really doesn't care about your whinging about traffic jams in Dover or the house prices crashing in London.

Quiet a few will see it as a bonus of Brexit.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:43
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It's getting a bit desperate when the remainers want to choose a specific day of the week in order to maximise their chances
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:52
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From what I can gather (from news reports and the net) the vast majority simply just want to leave and are sick to the teeth of all these shenanigans.
Its not only the government, the Uk population has never really joined in with the whole EU experiment. Which is the main reason why I think it should never have been allowed in and should come out ASAP and leave the people that actually want it to succeed to get on with it, if they can salvage anything.

I am also sorted which ever way it goes.

You have a small hard core of Whingers that really don't give a toss how much damage they do to the EU just to get what they want. Then there is the rest that are just bored of everything. Then there are a sizable amount of leavers who have got what they want and are keeping stum but will get extremely vocal if the whingers manage to screw things up.

Its going to be never ending until UK is out or EU failed... And even then they will continue whinging because the leaves screwed up their utopia. I suspect in a lot of cases the Utopia is that none UK politicians start being able to control the UK because they hate the UK politicians and feel they don't want any of them in charge of the country. Then there is the committed socialist aspect that the EU will always be socialist dominated so they see that the UK will become socialist orientated what ever the islands population wants.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:53
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
crack on with your SE English priorities. And you wonder why the north really doesn't care about your whinging about traffic jams in Dover or the house prices crashing in London.

Quiet a few will see it as a bonus of Brexit.
Hey tesco, why all the excitement? Ten posts this evening, so far.
You've got what you wanted, we've leaving the EU on 29th of March. Don't you think you can calm down now?
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:54
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Eleven posts already!
Goodnight, sleep well.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 21:58
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It's getting a bit desperate when the remainers want to choose a specific day of the week in order to maximise their chances
day of the week, question, who gets to vote, the list would take 5 years to sort out. All that time it would be hammering more nails into the EU coffin because it would be held static unable to move forward to its super state federal Europe which it needs to survive.

Again those of us that want out the EU be it through leaving or through its failure will win eventually and we will be alive to see it.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 22:04
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Well done sally mockery trying to divert away, when you haven't got a response.

Not going to change a thing mind you.

No links to any of the economic fiction writers recently or have they stopped that and the main focus is on company's not owned or only letter headed in the UK issuing statements that they are having a tantrum and leaving (like they did before the ref but they really mean it now)?
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 22:27
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Have any of you remianers got a plan how the UK is going to fit into the EU now that the last 2 years have gone past?

How the parliament is going to cope with a member that's done vast amounts of damage to the other members?

One which everyone knows at the slightest controversial rule change towards super state is going to return back to political turmoil.

And is the key pin with its import market for most if not all trade deals that have been done so far and likelihood will be all trade deals so far may be cancel due to the balance being change since ratification of said deals if the UK leaves.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 22:36
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You have a small hard core of Whingers that really don't give a toss how much damage they do to the EU just to get what they want.
Yup. They're the ones who didn't accept the result of the first referendum, and whined and whined and whined for forty years until they got a re-run.

And whatever happens now, they will carry on whining and whining and whining, because whining is what they do. If they don't whine about the EU they'll whine about something else. But they'll still whine.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 22:44
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40 years ago the EU didn't exist and that ref wasn't about the EU it was the common market which most people don't have a problem with.

As for the whining true enough.

As for the whingers in the extremely remote chance the uk stays in, as the damage has been done already they might "win" but loose anyway.
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