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Old 24th Jan 2019, 23:13
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And what happened to his openess? All Corbyn has done is to set up organisations to strangle any opposition to his power base and deselect those that oppose him, more dictator than leader... Ohh and as for policies, he learnt from Cameron in that any bad news is announced by others to distance himself as he fence sits on issues... Brexit has exposed his weakness as a leader, and the fact that his dreams of leadership have overriden his responsibilities to the country.
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Old 24th Jan 2019, 23:17
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Would "racedo" care to provide some factual evidence rather than opinion [either his own or other rancid commentators] thank you.
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Old 24th Jan 2019, 23:22
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
And what happened to his openess? All Corbyn has done is to set up organisations to strangle any opposition to his power base and deselect those that oppose him, more dictator than leader... Ohh and as for policies, he learnt from Cameron in that any bad news is announced by others to distance himself as he fence sits on issues... Brexit has exposed his weakness as a leader, and the fact that his dreams of leadership have overriden his responsibilities to the country.
Yes. 100% nutty.
But the opportunity to "payback" those who would usurp the peoples choice is quite a temptation and damn the consequences.
We have learnt from the SNP!
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Old 24th Jan 2019, 23:35
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All of that is completely delusional, The place is awash with foreign money, McDonnel isn't chancellor & we are far from the highest tax burden. You & your pals though did vote to burn the place down, so make your peace with it.
Vorwärts EU [ropa] indeed!

Deutsche Bank processed €31bn more of questionable funds for Danske Bank than previously thought, increasing its exposure to the world’s biggest money-laundering scandal. In addition to the $150bn that Deutsche Bank cleared for Danske’s tiny Estonian branch between 2007 and 2015, the German bank processed another €31bn, according to people familiar with the matter.

HoHoHo remainers, read it and weep! Your EU is a house built of cards!!!


https://www.ft.com/content/bbeb6fe2-...c-6fa24bd5409c

bloody marvelous how the truth always comes to the front isn't it.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 05:44
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It will be dismissed as inconsequential. Just like the 3% of GDP that comes from UK tourists in Spain.

Deutsche has been on life support for years. Loads of exposure in the Med countries to boot.

Perfect storm is brewing I suspect... we shall see.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 06:00
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Irish Revenue Rule Out Border Customs Posts

Revenue has no plans to set up customs posts on the border if there is a hard Brexit, its chairman said. Niall Cody said that he expected most customs checks after the UK’s departure from the EU to be done online, without the need for physical inspections. He told the Oireachtas finance committee yesterday that any physical checks on imported products would “to the greatest extent possible take place at traders’ premises away from the point of importation”......

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Old 25th Jan 2019, 06:27
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The Irish unfortunately are a pawn between the two entity's. Currently they are high media value but as soon as things happen they will be shat on by the EU for the greater good.

There is a very long history of, what for a better term "fiddling", across the NI Eire border. The locals will have a great time of it...….. But very quickly the Eu will call foul. I suspect the end result will be checks between Eire and mainland Europe.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 06:29
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With the increasing furore and expectation that parliament will vote to extend A50, remember that will take the unanimous agreement if the other 27 EU states. It should not be assumed it will be forthcoming....

POLITICO: Lithuanian president: No-deal Brexit better than ‘chaos’ of delay

The "chaos" of delaying Brexit could be worse than a no-deal scenario, according to Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskaitė, who predicted that the EU would negotiate mini-deals to mitigate the worst outcomes.

Speaking to Euronews on the fringes of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Grybauskaitė said that prolonging the uncertainty created by the current situation was damaging for Brussels and London.

"The more we will be trying to extend any kind of uncertainty, the worse it will be for both sides. And in that case, it's better to finish this chaos sooner even with no deal, or with any kind of deal," she said.........



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Old 25th Jan 2019, 06:30
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Sense at last coming out. She is right.

Hopefully that will lead to her voting against an extension.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 07:54
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“Corbyn has some principles..”. Corbyn’s one snd only principle in the biggest debate of our generation has been to block any and every outcome negotiated by the government without offering any alternative himself.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 08:01
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 08:03
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Originally Posted by weemonkey View Post

bloody marvelous how the truth always comes to the front isn't it.
Indeed & if you ever come across some, rather than yet another non sequitur irrelevancy to the matter at hand, be sure to let everyone know, just as soon as you can tear yourself away from posting nonsense while simultaneously insisting everyone else puts up proof of their posts, of course.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 08:06
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
The Irish unfortunately are a pawn between the two entity's. Currently they are high media value but as soon as things happen they will be shat on by the EU for the greater good.

There is a very long history of, what for a better term "fiddling", across the NI Eire border. The locals will have a great time of it...….. But very quickly the Eu will call foul. I suspect the end result will be checks between Eire and mainland Europe.
Earth to Tescoapp. What's it like spending a lifetime as a high Tory, airily dismissing the Paddy at every turn, only to find the disaster you nursed in your heart for decades has somehow put the boot on the other foot? Must hurt. Must hurt lots to have to kowtow to the Irish.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 08:06
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
I don't think Airbus or anyone else has suggested that the UK plants could or would be shut down overnight.
But if the post-Brexit costs and logistics became difficult it wouldn't be unreasonable for Airbus to start production of perhaps a new wing variant in an EU plant to prepare for a phased removal of the existing work.

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I can pretty much guarantee that if, one year on from a no deal Brexit, Airbus are still making wings in Chester Brexiteers will be screaming "Project Fear" taking no account of how long it will take to build a replacement plant somewhere within the EU!

The problem, other than the short to medium term severe disruption that a no deal Brexit would cause, is the medium to long term effect of manufacturers and international companies bit by bit removing work from the UK, making us ever more reliant on the gamblers in the City - that didn't end well in 2007/2008, and were they to be reckless again in post Brexit Britain the effects could be much worse than back then.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 08:13
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Lets take stock of the week.

Sony. Gone
Dyson. Gone (Spits on floor)
Airbus. Threatening to go.
P&O Flagging out ships including, oh the irony, 'Spirit of Britain' to Cyprus explicitly because Brexit
Fleece Mogg - Let's take back control by shutting down Parliament. WTAF????
Brexit cheerleader James Delingpole on This week: 'I don't know' in answer to Andrew Neil when asked why the US would gives us an FTA if we lowered our tariffs to Europe in WTO.
Taking back control Brexiteers - Let's get the Queen to ignore no no deal amendments.

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Old 25th Jan 2019, 08:31
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
Lets take stock of the week.

Sony. Gone
Dyson. Gone (Spits on floor)
Airbus. Threatening to go.
P&O Flagging out ships including, oh the irony, 'Spirit of Britain' to Cyprus explicitly because Brexit
Fleece Mogg - Let's take back control by shutting down Parliament. WTAF????
Brexit cheerleader James Delingpole on This week: 'I don't know' in answer to Andrew Neil when asked why the US would gives us an FTA if we lowered our tariffs to Europe in WTO.
Taking back control Brexiteers - Let's get the Queen to ignore no no deal amendments.

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Sadly, that's all irrelevant to the hardened Brexiteers. They just want out at any cost regardless of the consequences for themselves or others. .
When jumping off a cliff it's best to close the eyes.

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Old 25th Jan 2019, 09:04
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" Oh for the wings, the wings of a Dove "..DH obviously !

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...anning-cartoon
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 09:30
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The Netherlands are competing with other EU member states to attract UK based companies that are about to jump ship. Hence the incentives. Those companies would leave the UK anyway. Plus they do not benefit from lower personal taxes of their employees.

As others have pointed out, we have yet to hear that a company is moving to the UK - which, accordinng to Camp Brexit, will be the land of the rich and beautiful where milk and hoeny will flow once the EU shackles can be discarded. Isn't the Brexit mantra that UK based companies will be better off because all those funny EU regulations will disappear, an attractive tax regime will be in place and worldwide trade deals will give the UK a competitive edge over the EU? So why are companies moving out instead of moving in?
Didn’t Unilever recently scrap it’s plans to move it’s HQ to the Netherlands? Or doesn’t that count?
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 09:34
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I’d be interested to read some comments on why the EU appear to have been so quick to close down the recent suggestion by (I think) the Polish PM and his idea of extending the transition period to be up to 5 years to include a definite exit date after that. Would seem to me the kernel of a very good idea?
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 09:42
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ATNotts while appreciating that the boss of Airbus has said that they may possibly move the wing plant at Broughton why would they move it to China or the USA as previously threatened? Enders' speech

The Chinese branch of Airbus would love to build them Airbus China as would the plant in Mobile, Alabama Airbus USA I would imagine but how would it make economic sense to increase the journey from around 1,400km (UK to Toulouse) to 8,800km (Mobile to Toulouse) or 17,500km (Taijin to Toulouse) plus relocate the factory into another country which, like the UK, isn't in the EU?

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