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Old 14th Jan 2019, 12:56
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
He says that the anti Brexit sticker is his wife's; how hard is it to take that at face value?

He may well be, as most sensible politicians are, anti Brexit however - however they voted when it came to triggering Art.50. John Bercow of course doesn't have a vote, but he still has a seat in parliament, and the human right of an opinion. Just because he chose to stand up for MPs rather than the government last week doesn't make him biased towards Brexit. I could see him acting in exactly the same (some would say maverick) way were Corbyn in charge and trying to railroad stuff through the House.

The problem here is that Brexiteers, certainly the hardened once can see their prize slipping through their fingers. If they want to ensure Brexit happens then vote for TM's hard won agreement, otherwise face the consequences. MPs wyll fight tooth and nail to prevent no deal, without referral to the public; and in the event there were a new referendum, the likely questions would be "May's deal" or "remain". The public being rather more pragmatic than MPs, are just as likely to accept her deal, and leave as they are to vote remain.
May's hard won deal.....ROFL..she's doing exactly what she's been told to do

How long will she wait after "running bravely away" before graciously accepting employment within the EU autocracy, she'll fit right in.
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 15:28
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
More to the point, how trivial & craven of Adam Holloway to bring up the sticker in the first place. By a thousand of these petty acts do we enable the haters & dividers. Oh for a set of leaders who know the meaning of it.
You mean like this John Bercow?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8585901.html
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 17:10
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weemonkey: You really do have a thing about him, don't you? That issue may or may not have some merit. I don't know. Neither do you, nor the media, nor my very own MP Maria Miller. The same Maria Miller who fought tooth and nail to take Parliament for a ride over her expense fiddling (for that is what it was). In the meantime, those allegations have to stay in the "Pending" tray, along with allegations of Corbyn's anti semitism etc. Contrast and compare with the behaviour of Charlie Elphicke. Suspended from the Conservative Party for alleged sex offences yet miraculously reinstated just in time for a No Confidence vote in Mrs. May, despite an investigation into the allegations still ongoing.
Here's a challenge for you; name a replacement Speaker who you would like to see step in if Bercow fell down dead tomorrow.
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 17:21
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Originally Posted by weemonkey View Post
What has that got to do with the irrelevancy of a sticker on a car? You should take the dog for a walk, mate, try to get your blood pressure down a bit.
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 18:26
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If anyone is short of a Bollocks to Brexit sticker for their car and doesn't fancy buying their own (minimum order 100) just PM me and I'll send you one.
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 18:43
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I won't take the risk thanks. Had enough trouble from showing an EU flag in the window.
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 19:19
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I got some very puzzled looks when I displayed a Labour "remain" poster during the referendum campaign. But that was just because it was the first one I got hold of - I put up all the others when I got them (ours, Green, assorted non-partisan ... but strangely I never got my hands on a Tory one).
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 22:11
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Copied from The Times of Katmandu.....
What nation would ever want a trade deal with a country whose parliament promised a deal to its voters in the event of an eventuality and then spent two years effectively reneging on that promise in order to almost willingly embrace a worse situation than the one that existed before the parliament promised its electorate it would abide by the result of the plebiscite, which it didn't?

Copied from Morgenstar.....
Word has it that HMS Daring, a type 45 destroyer, left Portsmouth this evening for Calais where she is rumoured to be embarking high ranking European officials who will bring to Britain a special treaty of concession from the Leader of the Twenty Seven which it is hoped will avoid the need for a last ditch all out war in the House of Commons tomorrow night. At stake is the future of Northern Ireland, a once great empire and beacon land of religious experimentation and tolerance.
Admiral Sir Philip ***** was neither at his club last night nor available for comment.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 06:42
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Meanwhile, in other news, it's nice to see the Tory Gov't still have their Holy Grail .....privatisation, helpfully assisted by the tax payer.....firmly on track.

Back to Treeza and the day in question which will feature as a chapter in her memoirs......the chapter being blank

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ing-unions-say
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 07:34
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Thatís blank as in Labourís Brexit policy statement?
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 07:37
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I won't take the risk thanks. Had enough trouble from showing an EU flag in the window.
Now that rather contradicts the alleged swing to Remain.

(Not getting at the original poster)
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 08:03
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Whilst everyone is concentrating on Westminster, and the EU is supposedly showing a united front - there would seem to be a lot going on off camera. These two just from the two papers I have looked at this morning.

https://www.politico.eu/article/spai...voting-rights/

Spain and UK strike reciprocal Brexit deal on voting rights

MADRID ó Spainís Foreign Minister Josep Borrell said Monday that Madrid and London have agreed to grant electoral rights in local elections after Brexit to British residents in Spain and Spanish residents in the U.K. The reciprocal agreement will be signed January 21 and will grant British residents in Spain and Spanish residents in the U.K. the right to vote and stand as candidates in municipal elections after Britain leaves the EU.......

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...shes-out-of-eu

No-deal Brexit: Poland and Czech Republic to allow Britons to stay if UK crashes out

Emergency laws being written to enable Britons to remain and work in the two countries in event of no-deal Brexit


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Old 15th Jan 2019, 08:12
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
Thatís blank as in Labourís Brexit policy statement?
I wasn't aware Labour were responsible to the implementation of Brexit, the risible negotiations and the fatuous "plan B " debacle.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 08:31
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
What has that got to do with the irrelevancy of a sticker on a car? You should take the dog for a walk, mate, try to get your blood pressure down a bit.

Actually there is nothing wrong with MY bp thank you very much.

It is however incredibly ironic that remainers throw insults around gammon, racist, knuckle dragger etc...

The establishment personified indeed.




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Old 15th Jan 2019, 08:39
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Baroness May of Remainia
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 08:45
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Originally Posted by weemonkey View Post

It is however incredibly ironic that remainers throw insults around gammon, racist, knuckle dragger etc...
I don't recall using any of those words towards you, Mr Quixote. I did however deduce you are the angriest Dundonian in creation & you're certainly working very, very hard to maintain that reputation, mate.

Anyway, moving on from crushingly dull Godfrey Bloom of the UKIPS types, who's up for a sweep on the scale of the PM's failure to take back control tonight? Anyone for 200+? The largest defeat in the long history of the HoC? What a time to be alive.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 08:46
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
That’s blank as in Labour’s Brexit policy statement?
Labour doesn't have a Brexit policy, it has a "getting into power at any cost, and to hell with the country, and the well being of it's population" policy.

I know it is commonly held that the public, or at least certain sections of it, are stupid and / or dim - but how dim do you have to be not to understand that Corbyn's idea of renegotiating the UK's terms of exit from the EU (maintaining "a" customs union and full access to the single market whilst ending free movement) is a total non starter. He is expecting to get an enormous piece of cake, and then eat it; and if that weren't enough, having free access to a cherry orchard and picking only the best fruit!.

As a Brexiteer, which Corbyn is, how ever much he pretends otherwise, he would best serve his cause (if not that of the overwhelming majority of his party members) by voting for TM's agreement, but that doesn't fit in with his ultimate goal - power.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 09:02
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
his ultimate goal - power.
I wouldn't necessarily hold that against him, he's no different from any other poly in that regard. Where I do feel like jumping off the nearest tall building when I contemplate the open sewer that is politics today is the well summarised (by you) Labour position. It amounts to this: I do have a girlfriend, but you've never met her, she goes to another school. Come off it Jezza, that might work for your Owen Joneses & Aaron Bastani, swivel eyed zealot loony brigades, to the rest of us it's as see through as a pane of glass.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 09:07
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AT Notts, In a nutshell I agree.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 09:47
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Now that rather contradicts the alleged swing to Remain.

(Not getting at the original poster)
​​​​​​On the contrary, it demonstrates the thuggish nature of extreme Brexiteers.
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