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Old 8th Jan 2019, 17:53
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Originally Posted by Exrigger View Post
Oh, so now there are clever people on the leave side, I thought they were all on the remain side, how ironic that the clever people were on the leave side prior to the referendum and now they are not post the result
Are they, who said that? Wrong yes, but not stupid. That was their victims.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 18:04
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Every day you give us two or three pages of unsubstantiated self-opinionated diatribe, and then expect us to do the fact-finding for you.
#brexiteers don't do facts. Well-known fact.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 18:28
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Rees-Mog says Leave had the working class. That's not quite true, they had the uneducated and gullible class.
That is a remarkably silly statement.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 18:29
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Only if you are not up to understanding the logic.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 18:45
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Only if you are not up to understanding the logic.

Of course we are all so ignorant and gullible that none of us can understand your ‘Logic’.

I say again you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 18:45
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Only if you are not up to understanding the logic.
Oh good, that obviously leaves me out, I cannot do logic and understanding these days, and my conscious is fine for those that might be concerned on my behalf.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 18:52
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Always end up the same way. Genuine, documented issues that present difficulties for leavers are pointed out, the inevitable response: we're cool with it.

It's possible to draw conclusions from that.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 19:07
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The Leavers contributing to this thread are not part of the dimwit tendency, and they know that they are not. But it suits their purpose to display faux indignation. They know full well the thrust of my argument as well as the inherent legitimacy of it. They just don't wish to be associated with the smash and grab referendum which in the fullness of time will be shown to have been financed by Uncle Vlad.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 19:28
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They just don't wish to be associated with the smash and grab referendum which in the fullness of time will be shown to have been financed by Uncle Vlad.
Im sorry but I couldnt help burst out laughing at that. You call leavers for believing in unicorns and then come out with that piece of conspircy theory guff. It wasnt remains fault that they ran a campaign based on downright lies it was some guy in Moscow buying votes. Do you realise how daft that sounds.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 19:40
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Every day you give us two or three pages of unsubstantiated self-opinionated diatribe, and then expect us to do the fact-finding for you
Which is pretty much, actually is exactly the same as all the other posters on the subject.....

Nobody has a clue what's going to happen.
You can only plan the family's finances for what you feel is going to happen.

Bitching on here is going to change absolutely nothing.

If you haven't put plans in action for default exit and EU collapse well its really not my problem. But I am in no doubt that we will all here how unfair it is and how you have been shafted etc etc. When it al goes tits up...…

And how I am an utter ……….which ever swear word you like because I won't be made a peasant by voting leave and putting a financial plan into action for a default exit.

Your comments on my opinion are as worthless as the leave economic opinions. They won't change the outcome in 80 days time and it has zero effect on anyone reading the thread. Everyone's views were set before the original vote and haven't moved a ball hair since.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 19:49
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Originally Posted by Danny G View Post
Im sorry but I couldnt help burst out laughing at that. You call leavers for believing in unicorns and then come out with that piece of conspircy theory guff. It wasnt remains fault that they ran a campaign based on downright lies it was some guy in Moscow buying votes. Do you realise how daft that sounds.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 19:58
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but even if it is correct it won't change a default exit happening on March 29th.

And after that you can bitch as much as you like how illegal it is and how unfair it is.... the UK will be default exit anyway.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 20:13
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
but even if it is correct it won't change a default exit happening on March 29th.

And after that you can bitch as much as you like how illegal it is and how unfair it is.... the UK will be default exit anyway.
And given all the calls from people in some quarters for the wish to take back control, the need to respect a democratic process etc....would you be happy with that state of affairs?

An answer of “Yes” or “No” will do.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 20:25
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yes, democratic process has already been fulfilled. Even if the loser's would argue otherwise.

In fact thanks to the daft bint which insured it, Art 50 wouldn't actually be legal otherwise.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 20:41
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But even if it is illegal under UK law after he 29th of March it doesn't matter anyway because the UK will be default exit anyway....

So it could be illegal deemed on the Monday after exit but then its just tuff luck the Uk is out.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 21:57
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Yes it will be satisfying for some, to find that not only was Brexit disastrous but also based on an illegal vote.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 22:30
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Does no one realise that if Moscow had anything to do with any of these in and out machinations then so, perhaps, just possibly, did the trade unions, Jermey Corbyn, John McDonnell and almost certainly Seamus Milne and Momentum.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 22:35
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Does no one realise that if Moscow had anything to do with any of these in and out machinations then so, perhaps, just possibly, did the trade unions, Jermey Corbyn, John McDonnell and almost certainly Seamus Milne and Momentum.
Why not lob in Ken Dodd, Gareth Southgate, Arthur Daley & the Dalai Lama while you're at it? What do we win?
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 22:36
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I would say Banks probably and those you mention possibly.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 22:41
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Yes it will be satisfying for some, to find that not only was Brexit disastrous but also based on an illegal vote.
Illegal in what sense? the tactics employed or the result, one cannot accurately tell if the result would have been different if the tactics were different. I for one admit I voted leave and I passionately believe it was the right choice and still do....... there is only one thing that will justify either sides claims and that is time.............. and in my eyes that is one thing the remainers are unwilling to give.

It is rather like childbirth, you nurture and nourish your child in the hope that it turns out to become a productive member of society earning and making its place in the World, on the the other hand it may turn out to be far from ones ideal, but one needs to set down a set of rules and guidelines to ensure that ones child has the best opportunities in the world it seeks to enter.
This needs to also happen with the Country, but to continually keep telling it that it is doomed to failure when to be honest no one knows is like telling your infant child it is no good and will never amount to anything. I just
wish those people would except fate and get on board making the UK the best it can be.... We have had European conglomerates before, the Romans tried it and eventually failed, but we are still all here and stronger for it Even Hitler contributed in his own way by giving Germany a futuristic at the time autobahn system that links their country today...
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