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Jamal Khashoggi....so what happened then??

Old 26th Oct 2018, 19:26
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Originally Posted by neila83 View Post
I'll be honest, I despised Erdogen, but he may just cause a global revolution here, and if he does, all his ills canīt be forgiven, but will not have been in vain.

I still don't get, who on earth came up with this plan as the best way to assassinate somebody? Between this and Salisbury, what on earth happened to hit squads? We all used to assume this stuff was happening but done far too well for anyone to ever know...
Erdogan did answer that question when he said " childish and comic" . So it must have been planned by children for their entertainment. As they say children willl be children so we must forgive them, perhaps that`s how Donald will squirm his way out of the mess he got himself into. Though he will have to thank Erdogan for showing him a way out.
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Old 26th Oct 2018, 19:31
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Originally Posted by Chronus View Post
Could it be that there were no wells deep enough at DC ?
Another that comes to mind is they are great pals with Donald and wouldn`t want to upset him over such a trivial thing as the disposal of an irritating nuisance and as the Turks are great pals with the Qataris and not on best terms with Donald over his pastor, and a deep well smack bang in the middle of their consulate, surely the choice of the ideal venue must be too obvious.
Pastor is and has always been an irrelevance.
He was arrested in October 2016, charged in December 2016 and it only became a political ISSUE point in June 2018.
Releasing him couple of weeks before Mid Terms helps Trump prove he looking after Christians.
He is unlike any other WH incumbent in decades but this was a political move and a good one.

Saudi's really stupid but needed a way to get him in Saudi controlled area and US was out of question.
Any other country was questionable as he would be suspicioys but could justify using Turkey as his intended was from there.

In all probability what was going to occur was known about as Saudi intelligence well and truly penetrated.
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Old 26th Oct 2018, 19:36
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Originally Posted by neila83 View Post
I'll be honest, I despised Erdogen, but he may just cause a global revolution here, and if he does, all his ills canīt be forgiven, but will not have been in vain.
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Don't confuse disputes and shouting matches between Nations as War, often they are just part of a long term game plan.

Turkey did not act on their own and feel they had quite a bit of "unverified assistance", just because people hate each other it
doesn't mean they don't have the ultimate same goal.................... FDR / Churchill and Stalin showed that,

Maybe MBS wanted to send some buckets of Sunshine someone's way.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 00:25
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Saudis refuse Turkey extradition request.
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Old 4th Feb 2019, 13:41
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"A US judge has ruled that Syrian President Bashar Assad's government is liable for at least $302.5 million in damages for its role in the 2012 death of American journalist Marie Colvin." (anyone remember her?)
"US District judge Amy Berman Jackson said in a ruling made public on Wednesday that the Syrian government " engaged in an act of extrajudicial killing of a United States national."
Colvin and French photographer Remi Ochlik were killed in Homs. The lawsuit filed by Colvin's family in 2016 accused officials in Assad's government of deliberately targeting a studio where Colvin was working."

Now in a non-Bizarro world, I would expect similar proceedings against the Saudi Arabian government and the Crown boy Prince for the extrajudicial killing of Khashoggi,
a much stronger case. Any bets?
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Old 4th Feb 2019, 15:54
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
"A US judge has ruled that Syrian President Bashar Assad's government is liable for at least $302.5 million in damages for its role in the 2012 death of American journalist Marie Colvin." (anyone remember her?)
I think we can safely assume that at least some people do.

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Old 4th Feb 2019, 16:22
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meadowrun: The same thought had occurred to me, along with various families in the Middle East region who took delivery of unwanted US missiles etc.
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Old 4th Feb 2019, 20:10
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
1Feb19
"A US judge has ruled that Syrian President Bashar Assad's government is liable for at least $302.5 million in damages for its role in the 2012 death of American journalist Marie Colvin." (anyone remember her?)
"US District judge Amy Berman Jackson said in a ruling made public on Wednesday that the Syrian government " engaged in an act of extrajudicial killing of a United States national."
Colvin and French photographer Remi Ochlik were killed in Homs. The lawsuit filed by Colvin's family in 2016 accused officials in Assad's government of deliberately targeting a studio where Colvin was working."

Now in a non-Bizarro world, I would expect similar proceedings against the Saudi Arabian government and the Crown boy Prince for the extrajudicial killing of Khashoggi,
a much stronger case. Any bets?
Can US Court prove that said Journalist was actually in Syria from the stamp in her passport beyond all reasonable doubt ?
Oh wait she was there illegally and without consent of sovreign Government.

Now US Admin will want to kill this one as it has executed US citizens with ISIS and could get tricky, also Israel I believe has killed US Nationals as well.

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Old 4th Feb 2019, 23:27
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There was a school bus full of kids in Yemen that was hit with US ordnance likely from a Saudi aircraft that the USAF refueled. Judge Amy might just find US and MbS 50/50 liable - 300 million per kid adds up to a big number.

Then there's hundreds of wedding and funeral attendees taken out by US ordnance since 9/11
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 11:49
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Oh wait she was there illegally and without consent of sovreign Government.
Well, your murderous mate Assad was never exactly going to invite her in to expose the crimes of his regime. But like the superb war journalist she was, she found a way.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 19:18
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Corpus Delicti. That would have been very much the most important pre-requisite of any planning that may have been carried out.
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