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What Car? Would you not buy?

Old 25th Sep 2018, 12:39
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Ford Transit Connect

Don't get me wrong it's a great design (small work van) and in the US the double sliding door is standard as is the raised roof. It's just big enough to move a fridge yet not a full sized work van

However, the build quality is shite!

So far I've had: the rear view mirror fall off, the seal round the drivers door come apart, the battery fail, the automatic doorlock stopped working, the radio needed replacing, the windows won't roll back up and it rattles so much it's like it's about to fall apart

So pretty much put me down for any Ford
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 13:29
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Originally Posted by tartare View Post
Any Volvo.
Complete shite - transmissions are a nightmare.
Australia dealt to ours - shat itself halfway through a drive back from Melbourne.
"I roll" in Latin?
Bollocks.
I've had several second-hand ones over the years. Two of them have been less than wonderful, but considering what I paid for them I shouldn't complain. The other three have been great, and my present V70 automatic recently clocked 250,000 miles. Brilliant on motorways, though it'll never win prizes for fuel economy
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 13:34
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Lexus

I had a rental Lexus hybrid the last time I was in the UK and I have to say that apart from the fuel consumption it was a disappointment. The build quality and design was nothing special, it was no different to a Toyota Corolla. I owned a Lexus when they first came out and it was a class above most other cars on the road but now I couldn't justify buying one.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 13:56
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Pretty much any car designed this century! Back in the 1990's all the major car manufacturers had a problem, profits were down. The reason was their products at that time were lasting too long, or more accurately were too cheap and easy to repair. So designs became unnecessarily complicated and component quality was reduced, "built to a price", and a low one at that. Also they now lure in the gullible with electronic gizmo's that they charge thousands extra for but maybe cost only a couple of hundred per car. Today profits are soaring because margins on, and "turnover" of, new vehicles are both up. The problem now for the motorist is that they are all doing it, there is no alternative.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 14:10
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Mitsubishi - I bought an Eclipse GSX new in 1991. Had to rebuild the engine 3 times in 120k miles (and came very near a fourth time when the timing belt started eating itself - fortunately I got home before it let go, and investigated the strange sound it was making discovering about half the timing belt was gone ). Least reliable car I've ever owned - by a considerable margin.

I also swore off GM when I blew up the small block V8 in my GMC van at 70k miles (put a connecting rod through the side ), and it had been something of a lemon prior to that with a string of more minor difficulties. I replaced it with a Ford E-series van - the improvement in build quality over the GMC was dramatic. I'd like to replace it with a Transit (the full size one, not the Transit Connect) since they drive much better but I can't justify the expense, especially since I don't drive it that much (7 years old and only has 23k miles). So far nothing but normal maintenance.

The wife's Mazda 3, the recently sold BMW 328xi, and my Honda S2000 have been brilliant.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 15:26
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Ssyangyong Musso!
Can you imagine meeting your mates down the pub and saying “just took delivery of my new car”. “Great what have you bought Mercedes, Lexus, BMW?” “No I’ve got the new Ssyangyong Musso”..........
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 18:12
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Almost any Opel - provided I pay for it. I had two Alphas as company cars and they were great.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 18:23
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
Not a specific model, but a car with an electric handbrake.
For extra points you can get one that also has an automatic gearbox. Then you have no control over the vehicle at all.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 18:49
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
For extra points you can get one that also has an automatic gearbox. Then you have no control over the vehicle at all.
My present car has both, and except for being unable to make handbrake turns I'm in total control.
Makes me wonder which type of car you're driving?
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 18:50
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
For extra points you can get one that also has an automatic gearbox. Then you have no control over the vehicle at all.
I would have thought that an automatic gearbox would allow you to 'hold' the car against the hill in reverse before releasing the handbrake (whether electric or mechanical) and/or the footbrake.
With an automatic you have an extra foot to play with - and no clutch to burn out.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 18:56
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
I would have thought that an automatic gearbox would allow you to 'hold' the car against the hill in reverse before releasing the handbrake (whether electric or mechanical) and/or the footbrake.
With an automatic you have an extra foot to play with - and no clutch to burn out.
Modern electric parking brakes will release themselves, couldn't be easier.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 18:58
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner View Post
Makes me wonder which type of car you're driving?
One with manual handbrake and manual gearbox. But I don't always have as much choice as I would like when it comes to loan and rental cars.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 19:05
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner View Post
Modern electric parking brakes will release themselves, couldn't be easier.
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I have never driven a car with an electric handbrake - just had to rescue confused and incapable drivers attempting reverse hill-starts when parked too close to the car in front.

Another thing that amazes me is the difficulty which some drivers have attempting to reverse-park uphill - instead of turning the car around (it's a cul-de-sac) and approaching uphill in forward gear or 'coasting' down into the space in reverse gear.

I have seen serious smoke being emitted from the clutch area during some of the attempts.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 19:47
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I really do wish you automatic, electric handbrake disbelievers would go and try a three litre auto beemer, and I am fully convinced you would not only eat your hat,you would want one for the weekend.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 19:49
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PS. the wife`s car the Clio junk.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 20:01
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three litre auto beemer
We cant all afford such expensive cars.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 20:14
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Originally Posted by gemma10 View Post
I really do wish you automatic, electric handbrake disbelievers would go and try a three litre auto beemer, and I am fully convinced you would not only eat your hat,you would want one for the weekend.
I most certainly would not - somebody might see me!
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 22:57
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I used to be a big fan of Australian built Holdens but as they are no longer in production in Australia they are now
added to my very extensive list of vehicle makers that I avoid at all costs. To make it easier I will just post the few
that I will consider when I again buy brand new.They are from Toyota, Lexus or Honda and that's it.
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 02:38
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
I would have thought that an automatic gearbox would allow you to 'hold' the car against the hill in reverse before releasing the handbrake (whether electric or mechanical) and/or the footbrake.
With an automatic you have an extra foot to play with - and no clutch to burn out.
My 2003 Mercedes A class auto was great on hills; there was a set of traffic lights on a hill I regularly went through and if they were red, I could stop and leave it in drive without applying the handbrake and it wouldn't move. Trouble is the fuel consumption was horrendous so it had to go.
NB: I'm not one of those people who habitually sit at traffic lights with my foot on the brake (whether manual or auto gearbox), too lazy to apply the handbrake.
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 03:54
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Buying new or nearly new, Toyota, Lexus, Mazda, Hyundai, Kia. Consider Dacia if only keeping for a few years and selling during the warranty period, at that price it’s worth a go.

Buying older and out of warranty, Toyota or Lexus. Mazda possibly.
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