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Old 7th Sep 2018, 06:06
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Don't you know who I am?

A lecturer in philosophy, Siobhan O'Dwyer, has been ranting on social media because cabin crew on a Qantas flight called her "Miss" instead of "Doctor", which she feels is her due by virtue of her PhD.

I have the same problem. CC always ignore my status of, "Lord High Emperor, Conqueror of Galaxies, Righter of Wrongs (kind to small fluffy kittens)" and refer to me as "Mr". Despite the instinct to vapourise them with my death stare, I just take my drink and sigh at their woeful disrespect and ignorance.

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Old 7th Sep 2018, 06:18
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Sitigeltfel, we must have been seperated at birth. CC also insist on calling me 'Mr' when a cursory glance would confirm my status as 'Oik' deserving only of a curled lip sneer so professionally performed by the Delta CC on my first (and last) flight with them. And the beer was warm.

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Had there been an in-flight medical emergency I wonder how useful this “doctor” would have been?
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 06:21
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I heard a funny story of a certain TV presenter turning up at the gate just as the a/c was pushing back. Came up with the the infamous "Do you know who I am", quick response, "No, but do you know who I am, I'm the person who's telling you can't get on."
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 06:43
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....or the oldie but goodie:

’Do you know how I am?’

’Why, can’t you remember?’
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 07:12
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Dr and Mr R booked a cruise. The cabin was arranged with two single beds. She was not amused.
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 07:27
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
A lecturer in philosophy, Siobhan O'Dwyer, has been ranting on social media because cabin crew on a Qantas flight called her "Miss" instead of "Doctor", which she feels is her due by virtue of her PhD.
Sounds like she is quite intolerable and suffers high levels of personal insecurity. Hopefully the service she received did not improve....
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 07:28
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She's as bad as that Senator who kicked up a fuss when the Marine called her `Ma'am' instead of `Senator.'
Some people really need to get over themselves.

EDIT: Barbara Boxer - that's her. Silly wench:
And correction - he was an Army General.
He was being respectful.
Although God knows why...
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 08:11
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She's as bad as that Senator who kicked up a fuss when the Marine called her `Ma'am' instead of `Senator.'
Some people really need to get over themselves.
And correction - he was an Army General.
He was being respectful.
Although God knows why...
Perhaps she'd have been happier if he called her "Luv".
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 08:17
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the Marine called her `Ma'am' instead of `Senator.'
And then agrees to address her as 'Senator' by saying ' Yes Sir '
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 08:18
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I much appreciated the, "Yes Sir" at the end!

Down in Devon, where I came from, nearly everyone was addressed as "Me Luvver".
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 08:25
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Originally Posted by eal401 View Post
Sounds like she is quite intolerable and suffers high levels of personal insecurity. Hopefully the service she received did not improve....
She certainly wasn't philosophical about the incident.

Copping so much flack for this tweet. This was not about my ego. It was about highlighting one of a thousand instances of sexism that women encounter every day. It’s not about the title, it’s about the fact that this wouldn’t have happened if I was a man.
It simply serves to highlight the thousand instances of trivial bullshit with which the Twatterati surround themselves.

Friend of mine has a doctorate in a branch of structural engineering. Professionally he is Dr ..., in every day life he's Colin.

I'm generally not bothered about how I'm addressed as long as it's not "buddy", "dude" or "bro". "Bruv"'s alright though...
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 08:48
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
A lecturer in philosophy, Siobhan O'Dwyer,
Ignorance is as ignorance does...Dr Siobhan O'Dwyer is not a lecturer in philosophy - she's a psychologist with a world-ranking reputation in her field. If you actually bother to read beyond the ranting headline you find that what she objected to was being refered to as "Miss", something she has in common with a very large number of women because the feel that this implies a woman without a husband is somehow a lesser person. I can sympathise with that - I wouldn't have liked it if everyone refered to me by some similarly deprocating term before I was married ("Master Peter"?? that would have gotten them a broken nose!). The only reason she demanded to be called "Dr" is because if she was insisting "Miss" was wrong then the only correct honorific would be "Dr". If the Flight Attendant had refered to her as "Ms", like anyone born after the jurrasic period would do as a matter of course out of shear politeness, I expect the whole incident would never have happened.

I'm an engineer and I also have a Ph.D. I only use the "Dr" title in professional/academic scenarios where it is relevant, and whenever some jumped-up dick insists on being refered to as "Mr" J.U.D. in a business or social context (like the headmaster of my daughers' junior school did many years ago).

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Copping so much flack for this tweet. This was not about my ego. It was about highlighting one of a thousand instances of sexism that women encounter every day.
It’s not about the title, it’s about the fact that this wouldn’t have happened if I was a man.
She's correct.
No one would call her "miss" if she was a man.
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 08:53
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Originally Posted by snchater View Post
Had there been an in-flight medical emergency I wonder how useful this “doctor” would have been?
Most physicians are only doctors, not Doctors, because they don't have a Ph.D and their academic attainment level isn't equivilent. Surgeons recognise that, which is why Surgeons are traditionally refered to as Mister/Ms Meatcutter and not Dr. Meatcutter. Some doctors use the "Dr" as a title, which technically they aren't really entitled to do unless they have a Ph.D. So if you have an in-flight medical emergency you should call for a physician or medic, not a doctor.

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Old 7th Sep 2018, 08:59
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As noted above, if there was a medical emergency on board and she had to decline to assist, she would have been even more upset to be told, "You're not a real doctor then!"
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 09:06
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Copping so much flack for this tweet
No, she's copping flak
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 09:19
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Many, many moons ago whilst flying somewhere a passenger suffered some kind of seizure. The senior crew member made an announcement asking if there was a doctor on board.

A passenger stopped me and said I am medically trained but as a Psychiatrist, I went to the Chief who was with the ‘patient’ and told him this. His response was “tell him it’s ok I dont think she’s nutty”.

there are many types of Doctor!
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