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Old 9th Aug 2018, 08:52
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Originally Posted by Trossie View Post
Those comments are reprehensibly offensive and are inappropriate for a British TV news presenter.
You had me at "Should Kay Burley resign"....
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 09:38
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Presenters on TV and radio are frequently idiotic , asking stupid questions is one thing but they are often confronted with an interviewee who extends an answer to include what the enxt question on the list is-hey presto they carry on and ask it yesterday.

In appropriate greetings is another, a few years ago an familly of four were found murdured including two small children , coverage of the item pauses and presenter says now wer cans peak with the man in charge of the investigation Superintendent XXXXX
Interviewer in cheerful tones then says 'A very good evening Superintendent ' Do they ever think even for a moment what an interviewee might ahve seen or heard in the course of an awful day. To his credit the copper gave her a grumpy hello and said its not a very good evening for me and my team.

And as for remarks about Simon Weston just awful , awful, we do go over the top with the Heros bit in UK, but he is a man who has suffered grievous wounding and disfigurement but who has always conducted himself with great dignity something seems that is sadly lacking in the media
With regard to your last two paragraphs, couldn't agree more as to the inane level of questioning some reporters or presenters resort to

The lighter side, and the first paragraph....BBC Mindless Today in the West Midlands excels in this respect, notably when it comes to interviewing supporters of any of the local football clubs, although Aston Villa fans seem to be in a class of their inarticulate own when answering questions
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 09:44
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Simon Weston is a decorated war hero ...
Actually he isn't. War hero - definitely, but decorated - no. He received no medal for his war service in The Falklands other than the South Atlantic Medal with rosette, which all participants received. He was made CBE in 2016 for his charitable work, but that is a different matter. The term "decorated war hero" is much misused by journalists who of course know nothing about these matters.

That said Kay Burley is still an idiot!
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 10:05
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I think the post Falklands Simon Weston is a hero in terms of the charitable work he undertakes. This has been recognised with a well deserved CBE.
As for during the Falklands war, surely he was just another squaddie in the wrong place at an unfortunate time? (Not as unfortunate as the remainder of his platoon that didn't make it home).
To put things into context though (as I see nobody else here seems to want to); Bridgen was using Jack Straw's old line of it being important to be able to judge how your discussion/lecture/chat is going down with the recipient via their facial expressions or responses. Kay Burley then asked how that squared with talking to someone such as Simon Weston as his disfigurement ruled out visible expression on his face. Bridgen didn't have a logical answer to that. And isn't that part of a news interviewer's job description; make the politicians squirm?
According to one of JB's eminent philosophers, she should be fired for spending money on a facelift. So there we have it!
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 10:13
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No she shouldn't. Everyone is talking about the perpetually offended snowflake generation but are happy to jump on the outrage bus when someone who they feel belongs to 'our time' is the target.
I suspect Mr Weston wouldn't give it another thought.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 11:41
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Agreed.

Kay Burley says something some/many people find offensive - fire her.
Boris says something some/many people offensive. that’s OK, people apparently have the right to cause offence.

Personally I’d fire both of them.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 11:51
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Despite both of them being either stupid or offensive, if either is sacked then the battle for free speech will have been lost.

Promotion is the usual way to get people out of the way.

So Kay could be running the channel and BoJo could be PM. Both a bit scary thoughts.

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Old 9th Aug 2018, 11:51
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I suspect Mr Weston wouldn't give it another thought
I am acquainted with Simon and I agree with you. He's definitely no snowflake.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 12:52
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I suspect Mr Weston wouldn't give it another thought
Having enjoyed Simon Weston as the main speaker on a cruise, I wouldn't be surprised if current listeners to his talks do not get to enjoy some appropriate comments on the matter.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 14:33
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It's unfair of people to complain that Ms Burley has no further education qualifications. I have it on good authority that she graduated with a First from the Alan Partridge School for Broadcasting Excellence.
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post
Agreed.

Kay Burley says something some/many people find offensive - fire her.
Boris says something some/many people offensive. thatís OK, people apparently have the right to cause offence.

Personally Iíd fire both of them.
Am I right to assume that you believe that in a free country we have no right to cause offence.

Personally Iím offended by the assertion that, within the law as it stands (and the law provides great protection against incitement to violence) I have no right to cause offence.

Also, could you expand on your reasons why you would fire either Burley or Boris from from their employment as journalists?
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 07:01
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 11:46
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Originally Posted by Dutystude View Post


Am I right to assume that you believe that in a free country we have no right to cause offence.

Personally Iím offended by the assertion that, within the law as it stands (and the law provides great protection against incitement to violence) I have no right to cause offence.

Also, could you expand on your reasons why you would fire either Burley or Boris from from their employment as journalists?
She should not be sacked for causing offence. As you say, people these days are way too thin skinned about that. She should be sacked for incompetence.

If you wish to put a politician on the spot then you ask genuine but difficult questions. Kay Burley was indulging reductio ad absurdum which is simply lousy journalism, but unfortunately far too common. I do not know if presenters get proper training in interview techniques, but one of the first lessons should be: "If you find yourself using the words 'So what your saying is....' then stop."
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 11:53
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Originally Posted by Dont Hang Up View Post
She should not be sacked for causing offence. As you say, people these days are way too thin skinned about that. She should be sacked for incompetence.
Amen to that!
... snip... one of the first lessons should be: "If you find yourself using the words 'So what your saying is....' then stop."
aka the Cathy Newman syndrome..
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 17:06
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Originally Posted by Dont Hang Up View Post
She should not be sacked for causing offence. As you say, people these days are way too thin skinned about that. She should be sacked for incompetence.

If you wish to put a politician on the spot then you ask genuine but difficult questions. Kay Burley was indulging reductio ad absurdum which is simply lousy journalism, but unfortunately far too common. I do not know if presenters get proper training in interview techniques, but one of the first lessons should be: "If you find yourself using the words 'So what your saying is....' then stop."
OK, this has nothing to do with the topic, as such, but, since the words incompetence, training and presenters have been mentioned, two recent broadcast are worthy of note.

Yesterday, most of N.East Derby was gridlocked due to a burst water main. Cue Radio Duck presenter gushing forth about a "sinkhole appearing and the photo's are on social meeedja ! " nothing useful like the exact location...... followed later by varying guesses as to the location, by which time it was too late for many to even think about a diversion.

Today, Beeb sports reporter talking about the respective Man City and Arsenal managers nationality offered us a new term for Spaniard ....to wit, "span yard " ...and they get paid for doing this it seems.

Back to why nobody but herself would miss the presenter in question being absent from the screen.
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