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Old 23rd Jun 2018, 19:32
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Yes yes WM you've got to go for it; get out this weekend and get sorted !
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Old 23rd Jun 2018, 19:35
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
In my youth I was looking for a career in engineering and after reading an article in a bike magazine I phoned George Silk, at his Darley Abbey factory. George had begun by restoring and tuning Scott Squirrels and decided he could make a modern version (700SS). He asked me to go along and meet him. I turned up on my (not so) trusty BSA 250. After talking to him and seeing the bikes being made (which I found totally fascinating) he offered me a job. I never took it, because very shortly afterwards the RAF offered me pilot training and off I went.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUYNP-30Xqw

I greatly regret letting his business go to the wall - they obviously couldn't manage without me!
Very, very nice Shy Torque!
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Old 23rd Jun 2018, 20:04
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix View Post
Great post! Many thanks. My bike career covers less than five bikes, one book, Robert Pirsig's 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance', and one movie, 'The Last Indian'. Oh, and I do enjoy watching bike races on TV. (Spent more of my life on four wheels.)
Me? More than 5 - but less than 10..
"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" - check!
"The World's fastest Indian" - check!.
Watching bike races - check!
And four wheels - it comes to us all..

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Old 24th Jun 2018, 07:57
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In my teens I was a botom feeder and all my early bikes were dross. I did have access to my brother's Velocette though, and that was nice.


My first good bike was this CB250 K2. This one was really sharp with a reported 30bhp from 250ccs, better specific power than a Manx Norton. I miss this one.


Next was a Honda 400/4. That was sweet and smooth, but it had a tendency to want to fall into bends I miss this one.


After a long break, the third was a Suzuki GS850. It was a good bike, comfortable and with good handling. The brakes were a bit limp. What it lacked was nimbleness. I liked it but I wouldn't want another.


Another long break and this is now my current bike, 1999 Suzuki SV650. It ticks all the boxes in my fantasy list. Its light and nimble with heaps of go. Roll on the throttle any speed any gear and ride the wave of torque. Its red-lined at 10,500rpm, but I've never seen more than 8,000. Around that point I've reached the limit of my performance envelope and ready to change up/back off.
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Old 24th Jun 2018, 11:43
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I'm envious of the classics which previous contributors have owned; even more so of those who still have one (or more).

I had a string of Yamaha Ag bikes over the years, LT2A 100cc, AT2-E (125 - or 175 for much of its life), AG 175, AG 200E but now only a 2007 Suzuki Vstrom 650 (dual sport) which doesn't get nearly enough use ...

I should never have sold the AT2-E - I have some great experiences on that one (ignoring spark plug issues), and more recently I should have kept the AG 200E. They are still a stock bike on the showroom floor, but no longer able to be registered in Oz; the one I owned was. It would nice for this old bloke to putter around the back roads and bush tracks like I used to in my earlier lifetime. The Vstrom is too much bike altogether for that sort of thing; very nice on the open road though, and (I think) a somewhat similar motor to your current machine Ken

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Old 24th Jun 2018, 12:17
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The same motor FOR, but dressed in different clothes. You'll know the "wave of torque" isn't an exaggeration, nor that the "performance envelope" exceeds mine.

Of the lot, I'd take the Honda CB250. It saw me through three years, summer and winter, in Norfolk and never let me down or thew me off. A combination of machine, youth and bravery made it a lot of fun.
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Old 24th Jun 2018, 17:42
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Originally Posted by ZeBedie View Post
You keep a motorbike in the kitchen? Will you marry me?
I appreciate the offer, Z, but I don't think my husband could afford the divorce!

Our original idea was to cycle the prettier bikes every month but laziness won out and the X75 has stayed put. Must take it out for a run while the weather is this good.......
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 02:19
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Suzuki GT 185 (Used, never filled the two stroke oil tank, never knew about it!)great little bike to learn on. it died on me over a period of months from lack of lubrication to the bottom end and pistons. Surprisingly durable...

Yamaha RZ250 (Brand Spanking New!) tuned it to a standstill with racing expansion chambers and k&n air filters (still an idiot)

SUZUKI GS650G (Katana) Shaft drive, toured all over Oz.

YAMAHA XZ550 (Vision) quad cam eight valve liquid cooled shaft drive. One downdraft and one sidedraft carb. A totally weird but great bike and loved to rev.

YAMAHA SR500, cafe racer modifications, wire wheels and alloy tank, wiseco high comp piston and hot cam took it on the track in the Thunderbike class, slow as an old mole... Put the engine in a Honda VT250 SPADA chassis, (Spadaha) vibrated like b'stard.

HONDA CBR600F Another brand newie, saw 245kmh on it every Sunday morning, back in the days before speed cameras.

YAMAHA SZR660 Supermono. Picked it up for a song, best handling bike ever, slower than an old mole but. Never broke 160 on it, even down hill!

Worked at a bike retialer, rode everything under the sun, harleys to GSXR 1000's. spoiled my passion for bikes...

YAMAHA RD350LC x 2 purchased and restored and sold for a loss... can't ride two strokes on the road in the days of radar cameras...

Gilera VXR200 Scooter, great fun bike, loved to party...Loathed scooters prior to working in the bike shop. loved this machine, like to get a 180cc two stroke model of this one.

ITALJET DRAGSTER Scooter, hub centre steering, bought for a project and never completed, ran and resold it.

YAMAHA RD250LC bought for the track, restored at great cost, sold never ridden for 50% of what I put into it.

DUCATI Monster 900. found it ok, but heavy and underpowered. Enjoyed shimming the valves and changing the belts, nice to work on a bike...Sold due to shoulder injury. (non bike related rotator cuff)

next I plan on getting a Cagiva Raptor...
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 07:14
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Nice to see so many bikers still alive and I will hope - whole.
I gave up bikes due to city location and most trips being like a commute in un-skilled city traffic and never, it seems, enough time for open roads where the real benefits are realized, and you are not just navigating various minefields.

My best motorcycle tips for your little single-seat fighter excursions?

A good bike you know well and maintenance to perfection.
Scan ahead and everywhere else, all the time.

Yours?

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Old 25th Jun 2018, 08:32
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After the Fantic which served until I could pass my test I 'moved up' to a 250 Super Dream and then quickly to a KH250 in lime green and had the full set of lime green leathers to go with it (yes I now know I looked like a tool and acted like a tool but youth is such a wonderful thing). After that seized on the A3 at high speed I moved to a 400 four, lovely bike. One day I dropped it to avoid running someone over and I have never had a 'big' bike since. Like every Italian family we have a Ciao and a scooter for getting around town.
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 09:24
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
My best motorcycle tips for your little single-seat fighter excursions?
A good bike you know well and maintenance to perfection.
Scan ahead and everywhere else, all the time.

Yours?
To those I'd add - never ride at ten tenths.. & always leave yourself with an "out". Never ride faster than your visible braking distance.
Cars at junctions are notorious for pulling out in front of a motorcyclist ("Sorry mate, I didn't see you.."). The best tip I ever heard for spotting a driver about to pull out from a junction is to watch - like a hawk - for any rotation of his wheels. That gives the best advance warning.
I came off my very first bike (tank slapper on a beach) - and that was my first and only time.

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Old 25th Jun 2018, 09:32
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It all started off in 1977 with the need for transport to start my apprenticeship, I think I've got the folling in the correct order:-
Honda SS50 - lime green 5 speed, started me off doing my own spannering as it burnt the exhaust valve after a few weeks
Yamaha XS250 - bought new, passed my test on it, ripped it everywhere and with a performance cam was surprisingly quick against RD250's
Yamaha XS400 - something else I ripped everywhere and again surprisingly quick
Honda XL125
Kawasaki Z250
Honda CB400N - best handling bike I've ever had, very stable scraping the footpeg, then centrestand, then brake lever and finally engine bars, it'd start to lift the front then!
Suzuki GS750 - completely stipped and rebuilt it, another great bike
Honda CB550K3
Kawasaki Z650 F2
Honda C90
Yamaha RD200 - partners (joint ownership)
Yamaha RD350LC - partners (joint ownership)
Puch Maxi
Honda CB400N - another one that, handling wise, wasn't a patch on the first
Suzuki GSX550 - vague handling at the limit with the 16" front wheel
CB250RS
Yamaha TTR250 - fantastic carburation and suspension fro greenlaning
Yamaha FZS600 Fazer - great bike, owned for 10 years, regret selling it
CCM R35 - every time you looked at it more paint had fallen off it
Yamaha MT-09 - current steed

I might've forgotten a few, lucky to have ridden some great bikes too - GSX1000 Katana, RD350 YPVS, numerous LC's and notably got chucked out of a Yamaha open day at Donington Park for overtaking the bloke (on a Martini XS1100) leading the test bike s around the track - a 350LC had come past me and the XS1100, I was having none of it (on an XJ650) and followed the 350LC. We got a couple of laps in before the closed the track......the lad on the 350LC was grabbed by the bloke on the XS1100, I was told to make myself scarce.

Motorcycling in the UK was at its best in the 70's, 80's & 90's, there's just too much 'surveillance' now with the likelyhood of a lengthy ban/imprisonment and traffic density and road conditions curtail any possibility of fun.
Riding in Spain last month was great - open roads, smooth surface, lots of bends, no traffic, no speed cameras, no average speed cameras, no police (just once, no fine, just commented about a give way sign, to which I replied I'd stopped, how much more do you want me to give way).
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 10:48
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Where to start......

I had an AP50, brand new in April1976, which I wrote off in the November of the same year.
Used the insurance pay out to buy a GT185, which I sold when my family moved to Spain.
After that, a series of GT/RD250s and the like, around 5 GS850 Suzukis, a GS1000, Moto Guzzi Lemans (mk1), TDR250 Yamaha, MV Agusta F4S, and then got into restoring 2 Strokes, In that list, 2 more GT185s, GT250, DT250, KH250, TDR250, KH500, 955 Daytona triumph, 900 Trident Sprint, and a BMW R115RS, Zepyhr1100, Bandit 1200, GSX1100G x 2, Ducat 900 Monster, followed by a 996S4R, TL1000S, the list goes on and on.
Did the hyperbike thing with a Hayabusa, followed by a GSX-R1000K5, a Yamaha MT900 Tracer.
Currently riding a new T120 Bonneville, and have a 1969 175cc bantam.

These are the ones I can remember off the top of my head, I'm sure there are plenty of others that I have forgotten.
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 11:18
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Well, should I admit this ?
One of my current rides is.........LIFAN 125; it's in my fifth year of ownership from new.
Chinese and we all have a laugh but proves to me you can have lots of fun on any 2 wheeler.
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 14:45
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sidevalve (#1),

Reverting to your opening Post, I remember, as a lad, seeing in Lewis's (a department store in Liverpool) a self build kit for the "Flying Flea" airframe for 75 (six month's wages for a working man in the thirties). The recommended engine was the Scott "Flying Squirrel" (don't know the cost of that).

Just a matter of interest.
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 14:51
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My 'first' first power cycle was a Taco 22. There have been so many since then, I can't even begin to recall them all. A few of note that I have fond memories, in some kind of age order;
Sears 125(free, the owner seized it)
Honda 90 with knee forks
Hodaka Ace 100
Honda 160 Scrambler
Honda SL350
Honda CB450
Honda 750-4
Yamaha RD400D
Motto-Guzzi V800(slug)
Kawasaki Mach III 500(death machine)
Kawasaki Mach II 350
Rokon 340
Honda CB125T
BMW R75-SWB
Suzuki GS400

I bought the Yam RD400 from the estate of the dead guy who crashed it. Before putting it all back together I sent the engine to Don Vesco master Yamaha tuner. He tweaked the ports, pistons, carbs, etc I put Kerker exp chambers on it and it was the fastest and scariest thing to ride, even more tweaky than the Mach III. Throttle control was almost digital, no power up to 4500, then torque hit like a freight train through 12k. The SL350 was probably the best of all bikes for all around comfort and pleasure driving. I had it set up right and was the right weight and saddle, and wheelbase. The Rokon 340 had an auto-trans in 1976, and while it was interesting, the brakes were too good for the chassis, and dumped me a few times. The only thing I have now is a DiBlasi 50 folding scooter for my plane.
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 16:10
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Originally Posted by Danny42C View Post
sidevalve (#1),

Reverting to your opening Post, I remember, as a lad, seeing in Lewis's (a department store in Liverpool) a self build kit for the "Flying Flea" airframe for 75 (six month's wages for a working man in the thirties). The recommended engine was the Scott "Flying Squirrel" (don't know the cost of that).

Just a matter of interest.
Thanks Danny - that Scott engine found its way into a few other devices..
Look at this Scott horror - looks like the front nearside wheel has been swiped off..:

Scott Sociable..
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 16:33
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Sociable
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 16:38
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 18:58
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Quote from the Wiki entry on the Scott Sociable that seems it may be a bit of an understatement:

Turning was dangerous at speed.
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