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Men Only black tie event - FT investigation.

Old 24th Jan 2018, 14:13
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax View Post
Have you been hiding under a rock for the last 12 months?
No, not in the last 12 months.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 14:35
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add to a corporate junket ---
free flowing booze scantily clad birds in high heels and short skirts and their black underwear showing ( apparently) and wealthy boozy middle aged men and you have the mix for a rather bawdy racey night

it's not rocket science - sorry but time has not yet evolved the male species yet
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 15:16
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Apparently, £2 million was raised at this event.
What will become of these funds now?

This event has been going on for more than 30 years and has raised significant sums for charity.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 15:24
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
Apparently, £2 million was raised at this event.
What will become of these funds now?
Use it to pay for next year's strippers
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 15:50
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They're paid a £175 to attend a party and their underwear is specified. How can any of them claim that they didn't know what was expected of them?

Did the FT bint think that she would engage the City financiers in a deep and meaningful discussion about her yield curves? Or did she already know that Ugandan discussions were on the agenda?
Despite the fact this event has been mentioned on another thread, it's nice to see the same sentiments towards women being expressed.....and par for the course.

Thus, since when being asked to dress in a certain style means the guests duly felt they were somehow entitled to participate in unwanted sexual contact....

Anyway, looking at some of the auction prizes and.....oh look, guess what.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...assment-claims

On the other hand, if you are daft enough to want to pay to sit down with Boris over lunch....
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 15:57
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That's a bit tame from you K&c. I was expecting twenty lines of vitriol.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 16:02
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Notwithstanding my obvious shortcomings, I would happily take £175 to be a host for a bunch of rich boozy women; and would not shout 'foul' were my bottom to be squeezed.

Now that's true, if a little tongue in cheek. Mock as you will. Outrage warning for the next sentence...

Why is it different for the girls who signed up?

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Old 24th Jan 2018, 16:03
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As soon as I heard about this whole debacle, I had the mental image of this:



Similar sort of mentality, clearly.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 16:06
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... £50 worth? (Not being a user of prostitutes I have no idea how much that usually buys.)
A course of injections. I am told

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Old 24th Jan 2018, 16:07
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A female who was involved in recruiting the 'hostesses' has pointed out that the candidates were 'fully briefed' (sic) and were given the opportunity to withdraw.
The main event finished at midnight, but the hostesses were required to attend the 'after party' which ran until 2am.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 16:08
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Of course the women who attended knew what would happen, and would any of them complained if there wasn’t an FT mole attending. Doubt it.

And of course, on a women’s night out, they only talk of fluffy kittens...
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 16:14
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/metro.c...r-7255684/amp/

“Women working at the prestigious charity dinner were groped and asked if they were prostitutes – while one guest even exposed his penis, according to the report by the Financial Times.“

Apparently, the women employed were required to sign a ‘non disclosure’ form. Sounds like one of the guests should have done too!

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Old 24th Jan 2018, 16:17
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Originally Posted by rog747
... the male species ...
An interesting zoological concept! How does this species procreate? A real 'Darwin Awards' winner to have an entirely 'male species'!!

£175 at the UK 'living wage' would be about 24hrs work. What were these waitresses expected to stay on to do?

One plus one doesn't seem to make two here, there's some info missing!
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 17:07
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All seems a bit tame to me . A few years ago a German insurance company threw a far better organized annual bash with colour coded wristbands for the hostesses, specific colours denoting availability, depending on ones pecking order in the company...
mind you it didn’t go down very well with the press probably rightly so, mainly for the squandering of shareholders money ,but the ladies were professionals and knew what they were getting into, or out of, just as these girls did ...
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 17:07
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A journo needing to make a name for herself. So there will not be any exaggeration, and, of course, she will never report hear-say as fact.

However, the chaps at this event have no excuse if they did misbehave. The world has moved on.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 17:09
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Most sexual activity-and there is a lot of it about - is between a male and a female. Is there a silent majority of women who think the female cause is well served by creating a picture of the world where only men make advances and never women and that a huge proportion of women do not want to be the subject of the slightest hint of sexual attraction.
If we carry on as we are, as hinted at by the ever lovely Mm Deneuve how will any sexual activity take place in the future if men are too scared to go beyond 'Hello respected female person ' and all women are programmed to regard even that as unwanted sexual attention.

I do not make light of what can be most unpleasant and sometimes frightening experiences but surely a sense of proportion needs to come into play........
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 17:15
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Was there an alternative menu for those of a different persuasion?
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 17:28
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Originally Posted by charliegolf
Why is it different for the girls who signed up?
You seriously need the difference between boys and girls explained to you?
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 17:50
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Originally Posted by Checkboard View Post
You seriously need the difference between boys and girls explained to you?
Perhaps there are some who have an agenda to have that difference eradicated and to have a common purpose of thought and action regardless of biological starting point.

Might work, might not, time will tell.

Or it may just be too boring to succeed.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 18:05
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OK, so we all know that men and women behave badly when they are in single sex groups, plied with alcohol and presented with a few members of the opposite sex dressed to entice. It happens at "ladies nights" every bit as much as it happens at "men's nights" and whilst I personally don;t think it should happen at either, what I think is neither here nor there.

The main points here seem to be that the organisers had to be brain-dead not to realise that to have such an event now, when the topic of unwanted harassment of females by males in a position of authority is a hot topic in the news, was not the best idea they could have had.

They could easily have guessed at at least one media person would try and get a story out of it (although I'm surprised that it was the FT).

The flip side is that I wouldn't mind betting that the majority of the hostesses had a pretty damned good idea as to why they were being paid that much money and told to dress and act in the way they were. I'm not condoning the actions of those who assaulted them in any way, just saying that if you're paid £175 for a few hours work, told to wear a short skirt with your underwear exposed and chat up rich and powerful men, then there is a pretty good chance that some of those men are going to behave badly.

It would have been nice to see the names of those who committed these alleged assaults made public, and even better if, instead of creating a media story the FT journo had called the police and had statements taken, with a view to charges being brought against the perpetrators. I've no doubt that there must be witnesses - some bloke with his dick hanging out is unlikely to have only been seen by the hostess, is it?
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