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Old 2nd Jan 2019, 10:35
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife View Post
I think the Audi was a write-off. Not a scratch on the Landy. Don't s'pose you could do that in the UK...
Mate of mine was driving his Land Rover when he suddenly had to stop because of traffic conditions in front of him. The loud bang was some posh motor (Merc perhaps?) going into his rear corner and spinning him round through 45 degrees.

The posh motor was a write-off. The only visible damage to the Land Rover was that one of the wire cages round an indicator light was bent. "It's OK, I won't make you pay for that" said my mate, and drove off.

This was just standard Land Rover bumpers, so maybe you didn't need the railway line.
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Old 2nd Jan 2019, 11:18
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Originally Posted by weemonkey View Post
It's actually classed as dangerous driving, even illuminating the brake lights.

However with the ever increasing "my road" attitude in the UK, you get people who pull out into the rh lane without observation who, when reminded that there was a vehicle about to fill that space, WILL brake test you in retaliation rather than put a hand up to apologise..
Reminds me of an incident many years ago when I was driving home from a show... and a couple of potential Darwin candidates.

Two kiddies in a small, posh sports car decided to have 'some fun' and overtake us then give us a 'brake check' on the M25

They clearly had no idea of what could have happened to them if 2 tons of Transit van had gone into the back of their rapidly slowing little car at 70mph !! Fortunately (for them) I was awake and it didn't happen. But why do these idiots do things like that? (Or have I just answered my own question?)

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Old 2nd Jan 2019, 20:27
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"This was just standard Land Rover bumpers, so maybe you didn't need the railway line."

Maybe not, but it made parking in those underground labyrinths a doddle - you just backed up until you heard a clang...
(or a crunch...)

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Old 2nd Jan 2019, 20:43
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That's how I always park a hire car. 😊
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 15:06
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2019 Darwin awards starts here.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 11:11
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
"It's OK, I won't make you pay for that" said my mate, and drove off.
Was under the impression that leaving the scene of an accident - regardless of blame - was a criminal offence.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 11:46
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Originally Posted by eal401 View Post
Was under the impression that leaving the scene of an accident - regardless of blame - was a criminal offence.
Isn't that only if there is an injury or if driver details haven't been exchanged?

Someone drove into the back of me at low speed many years ago, and the only damage to my car was a scuffed plastic tow ball cover, although there was a fairly big hole punched into the front of the car behind. I did much the same as described above, just said that I wouldn't bother to claim for such a tiny bit of damage, gave the bloke my card and drove off. Never heard any more about it, and was reasonably sure that I'd not broken any law.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 12:17
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Under Section 170 of the RTA you MUST stop and exchange details with relevant parties if you damage a person/property/animal.
If no-one appears injured, you can drive off after discussions without providing details but there is no guarantee the 'injured' party may incur injuries later on (whip lash, pain, etc). Failure to not follow this process could land you in jail and or fine.

Call the police:
If the other driver leaves the scene without giving details.
If you think the other driver has no insurance or is under the influence of drink or drugs.
If you suspect that the other driver caused the collision deliberately.Tell the police about the accident within 24 hours – if you don't you may be given a fine, points on your licence, or a disqualification from driving.

Hitting dogs, goats, horses, cattle, donkeys, mules, sheep and pigs, requires the above.
Other animals - you are not required to stop at or report the incident.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 12:24
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I expect my mate did in fact have a slightly longer conversation than I reported, sufficient to comply with the law.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 13:02
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Originally Posted by cargosales View Post
Reminds me of an incident many years ago when I was driving home from a show... and a couple of potential Darwin candidates.

Two kiddies in a small, posh sports car decided to have 'some fun' and overtake us then give us a 'brake check' on the M25

They clearly had no idea of what could have happened to them if 2 tons of Transit van had gone into the back of their rapidly slowing little car at 70mph !! Fortunately (for them) I was awake and it didn't happen. But why do these idiots do things like that? (Or have I just answered my own question?)
It's cases like that which motivated me to fit a dashcam. At face value you would have rear-ended the other car and the typical blowhard judgemental gibbon* would immediately blame you because "if you are run into from behind it's always the fault of the driver behind, obvious init guv - string 'em up and have done with it" or similar, often accompanied by statements like "it says that in the law, mate" (even more stupid). Having a dashcam allows you a chance of showing what actually happened, or at least it did in my case.

A few years ago on the M25 I was involved in a collision with a brand new (less than 1000 miles on the clock) BMW M3. I was doing a smidge over 70mph in the LH lane (which shows how late at night it was, because the maximum speed usually achievable in the SW quadrant of the M25 is closer to 70miles per day!) just passing the M3 interchange when said BMW appeared in the RH lane going quite a bit faster (I'd guess at 110ish) when it suddenly braked very hard and pulled right across in front of me trying to get to the M3 exit. I went straight into his left-rear corner, spinning him around and smacking the car sideways into the barrier. My car had 3k-worth of damage to the wing, left front wheel and suspension and the BMW was a complete write-off. The other driver was in the middle of an extremely abusive rant about how it was all my fault because I rear-ended him, and I was going to pay big time etc etc when the police arrived and took him aside. I just took my dashcam and canded it to the other officer, asking her to make a note that she had seen me take it straight from its mount and that I had switched it off to prevent the memory being overwritten.

The other guy was demanding that I be jailed, so we were taken to the station for statements, where I was cautioned and advised that it didn't look too good for me because I would be presumed responsible. I then got a taxi home. Three days later I was advised that I was not under suspicion, but I may be asked to give further statements as a witness against the other driver. A few months later he pleaded not guilty, so I stood in a court and gave evidence, and the court was shown my dashcam footage. The guy was convicted, given a 5 year ban with enhanced retest requirement, a big fine and a suspended sentence (6 months IIRC) for dangerous driving. The fact that he had only been infiniteimally below the alcohol limit (given that he had been driving for several hours befor the accident and so was almost certainly over the limit during that time) contributed to this. His insurance company had the chutzpah to initially try to claim 50k-ish from mine as they held me "completely responsible for the accident", but after a brief exchange of emails they reversed their position.

But if I hadn't had the dashcam I suspect I would have been deemed responsible for the whole thing...

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Old 4th Jan 2019, 13:08
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The very first thing I do when getting a new car now is fit a dash cam, as having had the footage from one cause an insurance company to immediately do a 180, stop arguing and just pay out, convinced me that they are invaluable. It's about time that new cars had them integrated as standard equipment, as they already have loads of sensors already, and many cars already have a rear view camera. Worth noting that some insurers give a discount if you have a dash cam fitted, too. It was one of the questions I was asked by my insurer when I changed cars recently.
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