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Old 29th Dec 2017, 21:53
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S.W.A.T.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/fake-sw...eath-1.3739251

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Old 30th Dec 2017, 01:17
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How an online gaming feud might have led to a deadly police shooting.
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Old 30th Dec 2017, 17:24
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Police shoot dead man after alleged Call of Duty 'swatting' hoax.

a dispute over a game led to one gamer threatening another with a "swatting", who then gave the first gamer a fake address. That address was then reportedly given to a third person, a known online "swatter", who allegedly made the emergency calls.
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Old 30th Dec 2017, 18:07
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Sigh. Yet another case of "not enough guns". If everyone were to look out of their bedroom window before opening the front door, and shoot any police they could see in the street, this sort of thing wouldn't happen.
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Old 30th Dec 2017, 20:48
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Originally Posted by Pitchpoller View Post
The policeman's gun didn't kill the victim. Guns don't do that.
Sure, but if the victim had been properly armed with his own gun he could have killed the policeman first.
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Quote from the ALLEGED person who made the original phone call "I didn't get anyone killed because I didn't discharge a weapon and being a swat member isn't my profession".

Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your actions? What happened to stopping to think about the consequences of sending a bunch of highly trained, heavily armed personnel into a situation that they think would be involving a person with a gun who has already resorted to violence?

My thoughts are for the guy who did pull the trigger!

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article192160869.html#storylink=cpy"
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Old 30th Dec 2017, 22:33
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I think everyone should have a gun and that killing people should be mandatory.
Good riddance to us all.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 01:20
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Two problems with how this transpired:

1) If these SWAT members are so highly trained, then why did one of them shoot an unarmed innocent man? Yes I'm aware of the concerns for everyone's (except the victim in this instance) safety, but "movement of his hand towards his waist" isn't much of a standard to justify shooting a man. Especially when you're equipped and "trained" as a SWAT officer. These cops can and should do better. Maybe until they do, they could carry weapons without bullets like fictional Deputy Barney Fife? (Don Knotts)

2) This LA "gamer" jackass can and should be tried for murder.

Now back to your regularly scheduled 'murica-bashing anti-gun rhetoric! (whatever that particular social illness has to do with the actions of a thoughtless idiot compounded by a police screwup I'm not certain)

Edited to add: More recent versions of the news story regarding the "swatting" incident now appear to make it clear that there was no SWAT involvement. Just ordinary street cops responding to a fake call. Tragic...

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Old 31st Dec 2017, 02:50
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Spiderman would've webbed/netted the guy.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 05:58
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When the general population worships guns, and stockpiles guns, and the games they play glorify mass killing, what could possibly go wrong?
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When the general population worships guns, and stockpiles guns, and the games they play glorify mass killing, what could possibly go wrong?
Does that tired old diatribe have some relation to the incident which is subject of this thread. Not very clever.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 08:09
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If you are half asleep, deaf, drug affected, mentally ill, panicked, traumatised or don’t understand American English and so do not appear to respond to verbal commands the police could shoot you, without warning and (usually) without recrimination.

They can also shoot you in the back if you begin to run away and they believe or suspect that you are armed.

This is the price innocent Americans pay, due to the likelihood of police crossing paths with armed members of the public.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 08:52
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With regard to the guns and America argument FWIW “ swatting” has happened a few times in France recently, though fortunately the worse that has happened is doors have been kicked in and innocent people have been left traumatised.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 10:49
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Originally Posted by westhawk View Post
1) If these SWAT members are so highly trained, then why did one of them shoot an unarmed innocent man?
We are talking about armed American police here - shooting unarmed innocent men is what they do, if there aren't any unarmed innocent black children handy.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 11:03
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If these SWAT members are so highly trained ...
I always get cynical when I hear this "highly trained" phrase being trotted out. From counsellors who move in mob handed after some tragedy, to police teams making yet another cock-up like this, all are invariably "highly trained"

Bring back the talented amateur!
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 11:29
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav View Post
I always get cynical when I hear this "highly trained" phrase being trotted out. From counsellors who move in mob handed after some tragedy, to police teams making yet another cock-up like this, all are invariably "highly trained"
Perhaps they were highly trained because they were never any good at it and took inordinate amounts of training to reach even the most mediocre pass.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 12:08
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ristol-witness

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...e-intelligence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 14:16
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Ah - yet another thread proving that here on JB, complete ignorance of a subject shouldn't dissuade you from attempting to formulate an opinion of it!

Seems a clean shoot. Cops responded to immediate life threat, subject failed to comply with commands and further elevated threat level. Subject down; all cops go home safe. All too often, that's not the case - yet I get impression several of the above posters would be partying in the streets, had yet more police widows/widowers been created.

The usual hypocrisy remains... "guns are evil", "cops are brutal", etc. Yet almost every crime victim I've assisted was quick to call 911 and demand cops with guns appear instantaneously. Funny old world!
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 15:02
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Sure, but if the victim had been properly armed with his own gun he could have killed the policeman first.
You've made a couple of references in this thread to shooting cops. You're just being sarcastic, I assume ?
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