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Old 15th Sep 2017, 08:11
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Parsons Green Explosion

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Parsons Green 'explosion': Passengers injured after 'blast' on District line Tube train

An "explosion" on a Tube train at Parsons Green station has left people injured and passengers fleeing in panic. Several people are said to have suffered facial burns after a white container "blew up" towards the rear of the District Line train.

Emergency services are attending the station in west London after the incident during the Friday morning rush-hour. Armed police are at the scene and the Metropolitan Police said it would provide an update soon......

A picture posted on social media appeared to show a bag that "exploded". A Twitter user said: "Fireball flew down carriage and we just jumped out open door."
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Old 15th Sep 2017, 08:55
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Pictures I have seen show a blackened bucket with fairy lights and wires coming out of it (a crude detonator - broken light in a bucket of gas?)
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Looking at the photos it seems very much as if this may have been a failed IED. I can't see a logical and probable explanation for a bucket being within another bag, and then the contents spontaneously igniting, other than some sort of IED.

Given that the device seems quite large (a bucket full of TATP would cause a pretty massive blast) I think the people in that train may well have been very, very lucky.

Based on next to sod all evidence, my guess is that this was either something daft, like someone carrying some cleaning materials in a bucket that leaked and ignited (doesn't seem that likely) or that it was a TATP based device, that the bomb maker screwed up. The latter is pretty easy to screw up, as shown by other TATP IEDs that have only partially ignited, rather than detonated, that we've seen in the past. I think the problem for the bomb makers may well be getting hold of one of the precursor chemicals needed for the prep in a sufficiently high concentration.
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Authorities confirm it is now being treated as a terrorist incident. View of the device from another side shows wires coming out of the bucket down to something else inside the bag.
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My wife's aunt was arriving (by foot) at the station on her way to work. A lot of panic apparently but as is usual with these things no-one really knew what was going on.

She got the bus instead.
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Authorities confirm it is now being treated as a terrorist incident. View of the device from another side shows wires coming out of the bucket down to something else inside the bag.
Yes, looks like the bang heard by those nearby may have been just the detonator going off, with the main charge, or one of the poorly mixed precursor compounds, igniting rather than detonating, hence the burns.

Sounds very like a badly prepped batch of TATP, as excess acetone could ignite and cause the sort of fireball that has been reported. TATP seems to be the explosive of choice for a fair few terrorists, it has been used in attacks like the one at Manchester Arena, the 7th July 2005 London underground bombs, and the 21st July London bus bombings in the past (the latter all failed to properly detonate, IIRC from poorly prepped TATP).
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Our local line. If it had gone off a couple of minutes earlier on Putney Bridge, things could have been quite serious. Equally, arriving at Earl's Court could have been bad.
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Old 15th Sep 2017, 09:53
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The good news is that it appears to have remained largely intact so there will be lots of fingerprints and DNA to sample.
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The good news is that it appears to have remained largely intact so there will be lots of fingerprints and DNA to sample.
Hopefully CCTV will give a good image of the perp carrying on board the train.
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Christ - my local tube station when I lived at No.5 St Olaf's Road!
Remember it well - right next to the White Horse Pub on Parson's Green?
Also known as the Sloany Pony?
Nice part of town...
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What's TAPT ?
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Just another example of Love and Peace?

Odd how proximity to the violence alters one's view of it all.

Despite being warned for years.....many still think they are immune from attack by those who mean us ill.
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Old 15th Sep 2017, 11:13
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TATP = triacetone triperoxide.
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Funfly I didnt know what TATP is either, but a bit of time on Google tells me it is triacetone triperoxide, a cleaning chemical frequently used by these guys in making their bombs, Tricky stuff apparently, with the happy side affect that they frequently blow themselves up unintentionally

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Old 15th Sep 2017, 11:36
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Is the normal reaction of calling of a Cobra Meeting by Dismay, with her in the chair, meant to create the illusion that she and her misguided mob are doing something?
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they frequently blow themselves up unintentionally

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Odd how proximity to the violence alters one's view of it all.

Despite being warned for years.....many still think they are immune from attack by those who mean us ill.
Despite the evil attacks in the UK over the last year or so (and before that of course), the odds of dying prematurely via terrorism here are substantially less than most other causes available. No one is foolish enough to think they are immune, but I'm far more likely to be wiped out by a drunk driver on my way home tonight. And let's not mention the 'g' things, and the cultural differences around them either side of the pond!

Which of course shouldn't be twisted into accusing those us with a sense of perspective of not wanting the full force of the law to find whoever did this and throwing away the key. Having said that it does smack of a failed 14 year old chemistry student rather than a sophisticated bomb maker.
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Having said that it does smack of a failed 14 year old chemistry student rather than a sophisticated bomb maker.
Thank goodness!

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Old 15th Sep 2017, 13:02
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TTN et al, have a peek from behind the net curtains in case there is a Black Insigna outside

GCHQ is listening.
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Compared to other attacks it pails into insignificance.
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