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Old 13th Sep 2017, 23:03
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US sub flies Jolly Roger

USS Jimmy Carter returns to Washington flying the Jolly Roger - usually signifying success in action.
Ivy bells - this time NK fibreoptics anyone?

EDIT: Sorry Mods - meant for JB - shift if needed.
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 14:35
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The flag is marked. Almost certainly a NK mission, she did it before in 2010 with a UAV overflight.

By the way, I'd be rather concerned about that V shaped crack in the fin, it's supposed to be reinforced for ice penetration......
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 16:26
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Just for a bit of doublethink, how about considering that the mission might just have been to fly the flag on return to base so everyone thinks they've done something and expends a lot of effort in checking to see if they can work out what it was?

I thought US subs hoisted a broom aloft, or was that just a signal to the armaments officer that they needed more torpedoes?
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The broomstick was to signify "a clean sweep", wasn't it?

Edit: yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_sweep_(naval)
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To signify it didn't hit anything?

Couldn't help myself.
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Doesn't it signify a US warship which has somehow managed to complete a voyage without getting itself run over by a tanker or a boxship?

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Old 14th Sep 2017, 18:06
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Or a UK one which hasn't run aground or hit the only rock in 400 miles.
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Don't be silly. Our warships don't go that far. Do they? 400 miles? Eek!
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Lots of empty drums from the sounds echoing back and forth!
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Too early by 5 days
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Currently 13 of the Royal Navy's 19-strong fleet of Type 23 frigates and Type 45 destroyers are unable to go to sea due to a lack of manpower, fuel and supplies, senior military sources have revealed.
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Which goes right to the fact the U.K., the EU's most "serious" military power, can't field a RN, then the rest of the EU military is a farce and doesn't have a say in international relations.

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Old 15th Sep 2017, 00:41
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Originally Posted by SASless View Post
Lots of empty drums from the sounds echoing back and forth!
You think so old son?
I see a bunch of people interested in history, military tradition and world current events - plus a bunch `a typically dry and self-deprecating Brits - and one or two spams who don't get it...
And yes - that `fracture' makes me wonder if they hit something...?

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And yes - that `fracture' makes me wonder if they hit something...?
I found the answer:"Mold-in-Place Special Hull Treatment (MIP/SHT), is failing–and it has been failing for years. MIP/SHT is the rubbery-ish insulation that helps the boat evade sonar, stay silent and, ultimately, survive. But the only problem is the hull treatment doesn’t stick to multi-billion-dollar hull. It comes off. In sheets." So... the MIP is SHT.

The "fractured fin" photo is in the article linked in the first post, btw.
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Old 15th Sep 2017, 08:56
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Originally Posted by Cazalet33 View Post
Who/what are you quoting?
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Not sure what its got to do with a USN sub though.

Royal Navy a 'laughing stock' with three quarters of its warships out of action and 'struggling to protect British citizens'
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Which goes right to the fact the U.K., the EU's most "serious" military power, can't field a RN, then the rest of the EU military is a farce and doesn't have a say in international relations.
Did the EU president seduce your wife or something? you're always popping up with silly EU-related comments, no matter how irrelevant to the thread.
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At the risk of further thread drift, I also recall reading an article recently which claimed that Type 23 frigates are routinely armed with just 6 Seawolf VLS cells instead of the full complement of 32 due to cost constraints. Another variation of fitted "for but not with" ? Sorry, I long since lost the link.

I wonder if they will get full load-outs of Sea Ceptor now it is about to go operational?
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Did the EU president seduce your wife or something?
There is an EU president? Gosh!
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So if the Argies decided on a rematch, would they fair any better this time?
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