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Juncker slightly worse for wear!

Old 10th Sep 2017, 09:39
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Yep, you've been a thorn in the side ever since. EU will, in the long run, be better off without the UK.
Funnily enough the feeling is absolutely mutual.
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Old 10th Sep 2017, 12:16
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
Martin Selmayr, chief of staff to the European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker, reportedly told Peter Müller, Europe editor of the German magazine Der Spiegel, that he would “smack” him in the “gob”.
Selmayr is basically, to Juncker, what Alistair Campbell was to Blair.

A thoroughly nasty piece of work.
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Old 10th Sep 2017, 14:05
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Selmayr is basically, to Juncker, what Alistair Campbell was to Blair.
Brown-nosed.
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Old 11th Sep 2017, 14:06
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The basic problem with the EU as a political entity and the UK is the difference in State philosophy. European states are rooted in a philosophy that descends from Roman times, sustained and adapted in most European states by the Napoleonic Code. Loosely, the citizen exists for the benefit of the State and is ruled over by it. English Law descends from Celtic and Anglo-Saxon roots that even the Normans could not, and so chose not, to oppose. The State exists for the benefit of its citizens and governs (not rules) by the consent of those citizens. Note that the definition of a citizen has developed considerably over the centuries and now includes the whole population.

This is the reason why British or more specifically, English people resent being regulated and directed by the European Commission over which they have no democratic control. Basically, the English way of life is incompatible with the European model and from his wartime sojourn in London, Charles De Gaulle knew this very well. After we joined what our leaders confused for a "Common Market" our eventual departure was always inevitable once its political objectives outgrew its economic foundations.
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Old 11th Sep 2017, 14:22
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Throughout history Britain has never been a participant in any of the various attempts at European domination. That is why Britain should leave this one now. Britain has been an active opponent to previous attempts at European domination. That is another reason why Britain should leave the EU now. It is only though Britain being independent from those attempting such domination in the past that Britain has been able to assist in bringing down those attempts at European domination. In the long run an independent Britain has always been good for Europe and I am sure that this will continue to be the case.
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Old 12th Sep 2017, 09:48
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British policy towards Europe will continue as t always has done ..
Expect us to be attempting to split the EU from the outside as soon as we escape...or sign a treaty with Russia ��
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