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Old 26th Aug 2017, 21:11
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I honestly can't see what the issue is. if a shop doesn't want to serve you then take your custom elsewhere,when it starts to hit their bottom line they will soon change their tune.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 22:43
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I want to know more about the properties of nutmeg.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 02:03
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Me too..!
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 03:28
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Unfortunately you will eat Halal food in most restaurants, in schools and hospitals.
It's just not practical or economical for them to have two food sources and two separate food preparation facilities.
They should bloody well spent the money and make sure that decent people don't have to eat that filth. I always make a point of asking, and I've walked out of a restaurant on more than one occasion.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 06:55
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How it is legal to sell meat produced in a way that to many is abhorrent and not to inform the purchasers ? If certain religious groups wish to get dispensation to slaughter animals in this way, then so be it, but to do so without telling them, so as to allow an informed choice is puzzling. As I understand it, when an animal is slaughtered under the Halal ethos, not only does it bleed to death over some minutes, but the animal is blessed under Islamic law and a financial donation is made to ??? for the furthering of the religion. I can see several problems here, especially if one is religious. I'm sure many couldn't care less, but then again the many don't seem to care about much regarding food production as long as it tastes nice!
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 09:12
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Originally Posted by IBMJunkman View Post
I want to know more about the properties of nutmeg.
I can tell you probably weren't around in the hippy era..................

Nutmeg is a psychoactive substance when taken in relatively high doses. I well remember it being taken by those so inclined when I was a teenager, as it was readily and legally available. My experience was that the effect was barely noticeable, but some have said that it has hallucinogenic and aphrodisiac properties when taken in a high enough dose.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 09:43
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Originally Posted by akindofmagic View Post
They should bloody well spent the money and make sure that decent people don't have to eat that filth. I always make a point of asking, and I've walked out of a restaurant on more than one occasion.
Good for you, but if your kids eat school meals they won't have any choice.
(The same thing will happen when we have to take US adulterated food under a trade deal, but that's another thread.)
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 10:42
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The same thing will happen when we have to take US adulterated food under a trade deal

Any trade deal does not force anyone to buy a particular product. To sell something, first you must have someone willing to buy it.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 10:59
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
(The same thing will happen when we have to take US adulterated food under a trade deal, but that's another thread.)
No one HAS TO take food from anywhere - it is YOUR choice where you buy your food from, so just choose a local butcher who sources his food from local farmers that use humane slaughter houses.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 11:31
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Schools can't do that. Hospitals can't do that.
That's why they serve Halal food.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 12:18
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
(The same thing will happen when we have to take US adulterated food under a trade deal, but that's another thread.)
Good job the decision will be made by experts then and not here today gone toorrow politicians..
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 12:59
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The experts said that the chemicals used to clean up dirty food were safe, which is reassuring.

They didn't say the inhumane and dirty farming practices that required post-slaughter sterilisation of meat were satisfactory. They certainly aren't.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 13:17
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
The experts said that the chemicals used to clean up dirty food were safe, which is reassuring.

They didn't say the inhumane and dirty farming practices that required post-slaughter sterilisation of meat were satisfactory. They certainly aren't.
They said the meat was fit for human consumption - so much for experts eh?
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 13:22
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Bring on self-scanning. End of problem.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 13:44
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They said the meat was fit for human consumption - so much for experts eh?
Where did they say that?

If you are referring to the report on
Treatment of poultry carcasses with chlorine dioxide, acidified sodium
chlorite, trisodium phosphate and peroxyacids


I found no statement to that effect.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 13:58
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Where did they say that?

If you are referring to the report on
Treatment of poultry carcasses with chlorine dioxide, acidified sodium
chlorite, trisodium phosphate and peroxyacids


I found no statement to that effect.
" the Panel considers that treatment of poultry carcasses with acidified sodium chlorite as described is of no safety concern."

"The Panel considers that the available data on the treatment of poultry carcasses with chlorine dioxide does not indicate a safety concern"

"the Panel considers that treatment of poultry carcasses with peroxyacids as described is of no safety concern. "

"the Panel considers that treatment of poultry carcasses with trisodium phosphate as described is of no safety concern. "

"The Panel notes that the initial health concerns about semicarbazide are no longer relevant."
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 14:02
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Those statements were all about the safety of the chemicals used. That's all.

Where is the statement that

They said the meat was fit for human consumption
?
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 14:33
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We spoke to the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA)—an EU agency—and the British Poultry Council (BPC). Neither said it was unsafe to eat chicken rinsed with chlorine, but both raised different concerns about the process.

The EFSA says it stands by its findings from 2005 research that concluded:

“On the basis of available data and taking into account that processing of poultry carcasses (washing, cooking) would take place before consumption, the Panel considers that treatment with trisodium phosphate, acidified sodium chlorite, chlorine dioxide, or peroxyacid solutions, under the described conditions of use, would be of no safety concern.”
Pesky experts eh?

full fact
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 14:39
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Frankly I'm not too bothered about whatever some choose to do to when preparing food, as long as it is clearly labelled so that I can choose what to eat, and what not to eat. Out of preference I'd not choose to consume halal meat, just because I don't happen to think that slitting the throat of an un-stunned animal is humane - I couldn't care less about any religious connotations.

By the same token I would prefer to buy poultry that had been reared and slaughtered in clean conditions, not poultry that's been raised and slaughtered in unclean conditions and then washed with something to overcome the failings in both animal husbandry and slaughterhouse practice. I don't care too much how safe the disinfectants used are; the principle should be one of removing the risk at it's source, not dealing with it afterwards.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 14:46
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Originally Posted by Jet II View Post
Pesky experts eh?

full fact
That is simply commenting on the same report. There are others that quote it too.

The report ONLY says the chemical washing process is safe under certain defined conditions. In other words the chemicals are not poisonous or carcinogenic when properly used.

It does NOT say that the food itself is safe, in fact it raises concerns about the chemical treatment being a substitute for proper animal keeping and slaughter. Which how it is used in the US.

I'm still waiting for you to justify your claim.
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