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Old 25th Aug 2017, 17:05
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Despite what some 'cyclists' on here believe the purpose of the bell is to warn pedestrians of your approach
It always amusing how high some people literally jump when you come up behind them and ding your bell, especially on canal towpaths. I always however thank pedestrians when they move out of the way.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 19:45
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
In contrast to other types of races, athletes race alone since they are sent out in intervals (interval starts), as opposed to a mass start.
So a type of race then.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 20:09
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http://www.lvrc.org.uk/documents/roa...c_act_1960.pdf
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 20:10
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Originally Posted by Dutystude View Post
So a type of race then.
And one where, apparently, cyclists are immune from the need to comply with speed limits. They can race through 20 mph zones at 30 mph, secure in the knowledge that they are allowed to, even if by doing so they may be posing a risk to children, old people etc..........
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 20:12
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Originally Posted by salad-dodger View Post
You have absolutely no idea do you? Separate cycle lanes are great, but not when mixing with people walking. Even cycling relatively slowly (faster than walking pace) there are issues. why do you think cyclists on the road are a hazard for you to deal with? Surely all road users have a shared responsibility?

The attitudes of some of the keyboard warriors on here to people out getting some exercise and keeping fit are astonishing. If you weren't moaning about cyclists, you'd be moaning about joggers making heavy breathing sounds
And to think that this thread was initiated after the tragic death of a pedestrian at the hands of an arrogant 'getthef**koutofmyway' 'cyclist'.

Says a lot SD.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 20:16
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When the front brake didn't help:-
Man ran diagonally out in front of me, slammed on brakes, straight over handlebars, high mid air rugby tackle of pedestrian, heap in road of pedestrian, me, cycle on top, much cursing from pedestrian, passing motorist slowed and shouted at pedestrian, "**** lucky it wasn't a car that hit you"
Sorry, posted that one before, but somewhat relevant now.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 20:25
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
And one where, apparently, cyclists are immune from the need to comply with speed limits.
Cyclists are always immune from the need to comply with speed limits, whether or not they're racing.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 20:32
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Cyclists are always immune from the need to comply with speed limits, whether or not they're racing.
I know, but when racing on public roads there is clearly a greater risk to pedestrians and other road users, as the chances are that their speeds will be higher than normal.

Quite why cycles don't have to comply with speed limits is beyond me. We have a 20mph zone through our village, because the lane is narrow, visibility isn't good, there are no pavements and a lot of residents walk around, to the village hall, church, youth club, shop, etc.

If someone riding a moped or scooter is required to stick to the 20 mph limit, why on earth is a cyclist allowed to race through the village in excess of the limit?
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 20:44
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
Quite why cycles don't have to comply with speed limits is beyond me.
As they are not required to have a speedometer there is no way of being sure of complying with any limit. Mind you cars are fitted with speedometers and yet many seem to struggle to comply with the limit.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 21:15
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I have a very good speedometer. It's probably accurate to 0.1 mph if for no other reason than it's GPS based. My speed varies between 8 and 40 MPH, but given flat roads and no headwind it will be about 15-17 MPH. I have disk brakes both ends, bell, HiViz top, (and un-flattering Lycra below) flashing lights etc. I'm obvious yet invisible. Pedestrians don't see me and neither do car drivers. I give wide berth to both if for no other reason than hitting anything would hurt ME!

But ride after ride I'm having to deal with half wits and numbskulls who think that it's OK to walk out or pull out in front of me. Why? They wouldn't do it if I was in a car. To date nobody has yet explained to my face why this is an acceptable practice. A few have stopped and them driven off (like the Golf driver today) and a pathetic old git said "I didn't see you. You must have been going too fast." Yup. 11 MPH as this oxygen thief walked across the road without looking.

I haven't yet sworn at a pedestrian despite the urge to do so. But I think too many take the p!ss. Our laws do need updating and when we do so, let's make sure the pedestrians are included as well. They are a major part of the problem and appear to be Teflon coated. Let's have a little bit of balance and fairness. Let them also be responsible for their own actions.

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Old 25th Aug 2017, 21:24
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A million years ago I fitted a Cyclemaster 25cc two-stroke engine to the rear wheel of my trusty old bike - then it was deemed a motor-bike and I had to attach front and rear number plates, register it as a motor vehicle, and pass a motor-cycle test. The examiner directed me to a chosen route and stood and watched me traverse a set of traffic lights and a Stop sign, then as I returned leaped into my path with hand outstretched and yelled STOP !. I had a front brake of course, but the inertia of the powerful engine almost beat me. I passed the test, and could have then gone out to buy a 1,000 cc Vincent Black Shadow. That is the only motor cycle test I have ever taken ! BBB. ( Bullsh*t Baffles Brains )

Thinks - why aren't the present invention of electric power assisted bikes not also deemed to be motor vehicles ? Same difference as my little engine n'est ce pas ?
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 21:27
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
Quite why cycles don't have to comply with speed limits is beyond me.
'Cos bicycles were invented first, and speed limits had to be invented, some time later, to deal with bad behaviour from the drivers of these new-fangled cars?


I only remember having cycled faster than 20mph in a 20mph zone once, when as a councillor the evening was, as was often the case, filled with back-to-back meetings, and the one I was late for was in a pub.


Oh, sorry, there was another time, when I was trying to see how high I could get one of those roadside speedometers up to. I reckoned that 24mph wasn't bad, given that I'd already done nearly ten miles by the time I reached it.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 22:17
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No, not really. When on a country road a single cyclist will hold you up pretty much the same as two abreast - assuming you give cyclists adequate room. Just think how long that group of cyclists would be if riding single file!
I am not talking about a single pair of cyclists but a group of 20 or so which is, effectively, a rolling road block.

Just inconsiderate in my view.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 22:40
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Originally Posted by M.Mouse View Post
I am not talking about a single pair of cyclists but a group of 20 or so which is, effectively, a rolling road block.

Just inconsiderate in my view.
Well luckily it's just your view because you clearly have not a clue. Yes, it is effectively a rolling road block, just as those 20 or so cyclists in single file would be. Would you like to ban cyclists in groups greater than say 2, or 3? Just be patient old fella. You will still get there, and the world will be a better place for it.

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Old 25th Aug 2017, 22:42
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Originally Posted by 4mastacker View Post
Here's the Canal & River Trust's take on the used of shared spaces; i.e canal towpaths.

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/about...r-towpath-code

Reading that, boaters/water users have priority of use, walkers next and cyclists are third. We normally have very little issue with cyclists on the towpath and most will stop and pass the time of day. It is only a small, selfish minority who give the rest a bad name.
Is it just canal towpaths that do it for you, or perhaps also unmetalled bridlways?

You really do need to get some sort of a life.

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Old 25th Aug 2017, 22:46
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Originally Posted by Trossie View Post
andPlease guys, if you do so then just keep bloody quiet when you go through peaceful villages. I have nothing against people enjoying themselves and 'keeping fit', just do it in a way that isn't bloody irritating to others.

And those who are a danger to others, as the subject of this Thread, should face the full weight of the law. It would be nice if others learnt from that, but I am afraid that the "I'm entitled to" gits will never learn.
Do they ride through in the early hours of the morning, maybe disturb your beauty sleep? Is their conversation somehow offensive? How often does it happen, 7 or 8 times an hour, or maybe just once or twice per weekend? Or is it all just the sound of happy people that gets on your nerves so badly?

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Old 25th Aug 2017, 22:55
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Originally Posted by Piltdown Man View Post
I have a very good speedometer. It's probably accurate to 0.1 mph if for no other reason than it's GPS based. My speed varies between 8 and 40 MPH, but given flat roads and no headwind it will be about 15-17 MPH. I have disk brakes both ends, bell, HiViz top, (and un-flattering Lycra below) flashing lights etc. I'm obvious yet invisible. Pedestrians don't see me and neither do car drivers. I give wide berth to both if for no other reason than hitting anything would hurt ME!

But ride after ride I'm having to deal with half wits and numbskulls who think that it's OK to walk out or pull out in front of me. Why? They wouldn't do it if I was in a car. To date nobody has yet explained to my face why this is an acceptable practice. A few have stopped and them driven off (like the Golf driver today) and a pathetic old git said "I didn't see you. You must have been going too fast." Yup. 11 MPH as this oxygen thief walked across the road without looking.

I haven't yet sworn at a pedestrian despite the urge to do so. But I think too many take the p!ss. Our laws do need updating and when we do so, let's make sure the pedestrians are included as well. They are a major part of the problem and appear to be Teflon coated. Let's have a little bit of balance and fairness. Let them also be responsible for their own actions.

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Old 25th Aug 2017, 22:59
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Originally Posted by Dutystude View Post
And to think that this thread was initiated after the tragic death of a pedestrian at the hands of an arrogant 'getthef**koutofmyway' 'cyclist'.

Says a lot SD.
A statement of the obvious. It then descended into the usual rant from the usual bunch of miserable old ***** about the evilness of cyclists.

I will point out again that I have not, nor never will, stick up for that moron upon whom the thread is based. But I will stick up for cycling and the everyday cyclist.

I also realise I am pissing in the wind with half the miserable old farts on here! If it isn't this they're moaning about it would be something else.

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Old 26th Aug 2017, 01:57
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The thing about biking is to make sure the speed differential between you (the rider) and anything immediately around you or your path is as low as possible.

You don't scream past parked cars or pedestrians.

I speed with the best of them but have never even been hit or hit a person or car.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 04:28
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I'm not sure if SD is thick or deliberately trolling. Pretty much every poster here has made it very clear that they are referring to a small minority of cyclists, but he insists on acting like everyone in the thread is insulting his mother. SD, if you are honestly sticking up for the kind of idiotic behaviour that people here are complaining about, you're as bad as the guy the thread started off about.
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