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Old 9th Aug 2017, 11:27   #1 (permalink)
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The BBC LGBTQ season

I am probably about as liberal as a hetero male can get on all these issues. With the exception of pedophilia I don't see sexual matters as of any concern of anybody except those engaged.

However I do have reservations about the BBC agenda. I have heard comments from less liberal friends about the sheer extent of the coverage and I do worry that it may end up achieving the exact opposite of what is intended.

It seems that many within the BBC are totally at odds with what is going on in the outside world. Their clear policy of recruiting only ethnic minority candidates for their reporting staff is another example. And this trawling for Muslims who have done a good deed to counterbalance those who do bad things really is counter productive. If they did these things with more guile they might just get away with it.
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They have got hot wrong in spades. It is a turn off (which I did).

The BBC can now be seen, justifiably or not, as anti-white, anti-British, anti-Christian, anti-normal, anti-Brexit and anti-climate change scepticism.

Out here we know the truth. That is why right-wing populism is succeeding.
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But it isn't succeeding. All it is doing is coming into conflict with left wing popularism. My guess is that as it is largely supported by the young the latter will win. It would have been far better to have remained wishy washy centrist.
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I fully expect that you are about to be 'corrected'.
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I am probably about as liberal as a hetero male can get on all these issues. With the exception of pedophilia I don't see sexual matters as of any concern of anybody except those engaged.

However I do have reservations about the BBC agenda. I have heard comments from less liberal friends about the sheer extent of the coverage and I do worry that it may end up achieving the exact opposite of what is intended.
Iím glad youíve noted this. Like yourself Iím a social liberal and I have no problem at all with the LGBT community. I donít have any issue, in principle, with the BBC producing programmes exploring and inspired by and celebrating LGBT lifestyles. What I do have a problem with is the sheer volume of related programming the BBC have chosen to broadcast. Their LGBTQ season seems to have been going on forever and every other trailer I see or hear appears to be connected to it. Yes, itís important, but it shouldnít be allowed to dominate the BBCís output.

You make an important point about the BBC. I would be the first to defend it from accusations of overt party political bias, but Iím convinced thereís a more subliminal left leaning liberal bias within the corporation. Setting of the social and political agenda is not within the BBCís remit.
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The Danish equivalent of the Beeb, DR, have recently hired a 'diversity consultant'. Expect, she's on a fixed contract so not really a consultant. And then there's the point of salary; she's making the equivalent of around 250K UKP a year, massively more than the PM. DR have tried to defend their actions, but political pressure will soon put an end to this idiocy.

The last time they made the news, was when a correspondant was dispatched on a 2-year contract to Washington, complete with wife, children and wife's horse. Somehow he got the cost of transporting the horse stateside written into his contract, at a cost of around 8.000 UKP one-way. When this was found out, the responsible manager got the boot and the correspondant was told he'd have to pay himself to get the horse home.

Lunatics, the lot of them.
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I thought the BBC went completely over the top in its "LGBT season", and because there was so much coverage I just didn't watch or read any of it, on a point of principle.

I suspect the end result was the opposite of that intended because of the near-blanket coverage - it'll be interesting to see what their viewing figures show.

Another thread here prompted me to go and try to find some data, and it seems that surveys over the past few years give a fairly constant figure for the LGBTIQ section of our population as being around 5 to 6%. However, the figures are a bit misleading, as when you dig a bit further it seems around 2% of the population may be gay, about 0.01% of the population may be transgender, and the roughly 4% of the remainder in that 6% are "don't knows", or chose not to identify as being in any particular category, including heterosexual.

The focus of much of the BBC coverage seemed to be on the gay sector of society, so probably representative of around 2% of the population. Was their coverage proportional?

Frankly I don't think it was.

About 8% of the UK population are Roman Catholic, so should we have a "Roman Catholic Season" on the BBC that is a bit more comprehensive than their LGBT one?

About 3% of the UK population are vegetarian, so perhaps the BBC should have a similarly large "Vegetarian Season".

I strongly suspect that within the BBC, as within other media companies, there is a significantly greater proportion of people from within the LGBTIQ sector, than there is in the population as a whole, and this may well colour the way the programme makers think.
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Agree with all above.
The BBC use to be the "go to" channel for both TV and radio. It's now the one to avoid.
Regarding LGBTIQ, how many Is are there in the country and what's the difference between G and Q?
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Why is this whole LGBT lifestyle programming so prevalent in the Media ? ( not only the BBC ) It's certainly no more important or interesting than many other lifestyle choices . The truth is most people really don't care, what they do care about is LGBT "News" overload , It is a lifestyle choice that's all , as I said most people don't care , so give it a rest .. its not special or unusual enough anymore to be interesting .
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The disproportionate coverage and bias is possibly because the whole media/entertainment business has always drawn and had a higher percentage of LBGT followers and participants.

Tend to agree with the OP; I don't have any problem with anybody's sexuality and preference but I'm starting to feel that if there were to be a celebratory 'heterosexual month' it would be screamed down by a militant minority.
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About 8% of the UK population are Roman Catholic, so should we have a "Roman Catholic Season" on the BBC that is a bit more comprehensive than their LGBT one?

About 3% of the UK population are vegetarian, so perhaps the BBC should have a similarly large "Vegetarian Season".
Well one reason the LG etc etc etc bit is different to the two I've selectively quoted, is the 50 year mark since leo Abse's Bill became law. Totally agree it has been too much though. And it's a bit, "You straight people NEED to know this stuff!"

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Most senior management at the BBC has been on Common Purpose courses. These use cult like NLP brainwashing to indoctrinate the victims so as to facilitate undemocratic social engineering.
WikiLeaks never lie and you can read their take on CP here: https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Common_purpose
The BBC Board, the civil servants at DCMS and the current Cabinet are similarly infected, so there are no checks and balances.
There are about 130,000 useful idiot graduates of this secret society in Britain, mostly in senior management positions right across the public sector and charities. They control the police, the NHS, education and much else.
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Most senior management at the BBC has been on Common Purpose courses. These use cult like NLP brainwashing to indoctrinate the victims so as to facilitate undemocratic social engineering.
WikiLeaks never lie and you can read their take on CP here: https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Common_purpose
The BBC Board, the civil servants at DCMS and the current Cabinet are similarly infected, so there are no checks and balances.
There are about 130,000 useful idiot graduates of this secret society in Britain, mostly in senior management positions right across the public sector and charities. They control the police, the NHS, education and much else.
Here is an enjoyable 5 minute rant about them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwAhrU_wTdA
Actually, I founded Common Purpose. There are eight of us and we are very busy. For course details, tuck your contact details in Eros's codpiece at Piccadily Circus at the next full moon. Be in touch!

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More on Common Purpose:
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First I heard of this [email protected] guided bomb training season was here. I guess the rest passed me by.
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Enjoyed most of it but agree it was a bit OTT at times. What was annoying was the self congratulation and back slappery among the LGBTQ community for simply being LGBTQ. Big deal. By all means celebrate the 50th anniversary of common sense legislation along with all right thinking people of any sexuality, but some of the events smacked of exclusivity rather than the inclusivity desired.
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The Scottish Government forces everyone to spend money to support the 1% of Gaelic speakers, 100% of whom speak English
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All it is doing is coming into conflict with left wing popularism. My guess is that as it is largely supported by the young the latter will win.
The most rabid right-wingers I know today are all among 'the young'. They're the ones who can see what the Boomers threw away, and know they'll have to live with the consequences.]
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Similar situation with the National Trust who have suddenly found that they have had significant influence on LGBT issues in the past. Their opinion mind and, it seems, no-one else's.

This peaked with the perceived punishment of volunteers who did not want to wear gay pride badges at Felbrigg Hall - a decision now reversed. The Trust have developed an exhibition about Robert Wyndham Ketton-Cremer, the hall’s last owner, having found out he was gay. Rumour has it that current members of the family are unimpressed with the Trust's position and suggest Mr Ketton_Cremer would not be happy with such an exhibition.
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eal, no rumour, true.

Having a partner/wife/husband on my arm is sufficient indication of my sexual proclivity. Why should I wear a badge too?
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