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EasyJet: Inside the cockpit

Old 10th May 2019, 16:06
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PJ The thing is, that after hosting umpteen series of 'QI',Steven Fry has been set up,and gained something of a reputation as being the TV celeb' for disseminating interesting facts,and I don't think he can do himself any favours by relaying such blatant crap. (but then if one is paid enough,one might say anything..... )
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Old 10th May 2019, 17:38
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Why do the pilots insist on coming into the cabin to make PA’s? I can’t remember a time in 40 years of flying that happening.

I have flown with Easyjet many times and never seen it.



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Old 10th May 2019, 17:41
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The company encourage it as the passengers apparently "like it". I would prefer to poke my eyes out with blunt pencils than appear on some randoms' Instagram, Facebook, thing.

It's the modern touchy feely way. Some buy into it. Me not at all
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Old 10th May 2019, 20:43
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Another observation, I was surprised to see a drink container on the FOs cockpit ledge and a paper carton on the captain's side. Always taught to tidy up and stow loose kit for landing.
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Old 10th May 2019, 21:39
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Hi Pontius, it's a designated cup holder. It's not balancing on the ledge.
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Old 11th May 2019, 08:24
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Originally Posted by redsnail View Post
Hi Pontius, it's a designated cup holder. It's not balancing on the ledge.
Cup holder maybe but it is still not secured. Just does not seem good practice during a landing.
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Old 11th May 2019, 11:16
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Most documentaries or media pieces about ones own industry are derided by those inside it, certainly the case in my own field . I think think there are errors in the editing of some of these programs which could be avoided and they shouldnt try and dramatise things that are not insignificant problems but are routine. For my part I liked the lady captain who has featured throughout, she seems to be able to be relaxed but very serious and in control. For me the most interesting part of the programme is how it shows that the flight deck especially the captain have to deal with all sorts of unforeseen events often nothing to do with flying, other than schedule keeping, like the medical problems, baggage, drunk pax , ATC issues and can be pretty busy during the turnarounds . My wife an ex Speedbird London radio op from years back was alo interested in thata s she often had to take all kinds of messages ovr lost wheelchairs, sick pax, last minute delays and finding engineers who back in those days were not allowed to speak to the crew directly due to the radio licencing and everything had to be repeated by the radio op . Its also good to see a company allowing access to something of the shrp end of an operation rather than a day in the life of a loader at Luton , no disrespect to them , they are a cog in the machine too. And as for Easyjet-I usually fly BA, Avios to spend and LHR much nearer to me but all my EZ experiences as pax have been good seemingly very professional operated as much as one can tell from the back seats.
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Old 18th May 2019, 17:58
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I've watched both series and have found them interesting although a tad repetitive as they all tend to focus on young, pretty female trainee pilots practicing their take-offs and landings at that deserted airfield, before flying fare-paying passengers "for the very first time".

It was especially interesting, however, to see a guy in his 40s training to be a pilot as everyone else seems to be very young, although he was only featured once. It would have been nice to know how common it is for someone later in life to take up such a profession and whether he found his age worked in his favour or not.

The main drawback is the daft narration from Stephen Fry whose pomposity was obvious during the reference to Newcastle airport as 'the North' as if it was some far-flung outpost of the British Empire.

If he writes his own script, he's very lazy.

If there's a series three, then they need to replace Stephen Fry for a start.
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Old 19th May 2019, 11:36
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I’ve thoroughly enjoyed this.

Almost every documentary, fly on the wall, aviation programme has run the standard tropes. Steely eyed men (always men) fight the controls (cue the shots of frequent minor adjusts - fighting the controls!)... no tedious taxiing, just brows swept, hand shakes... AGAINST ALL ODDS.

This though has been a antidote - arguably too far the other way - but good.

Pilots as actual human beings. When something went tech, there wasn’t big jaws bass notes. PIC calls engineering for a software fix.

Base training runs made me chuckle. I’m a lowly PPL and it made smile seeing the total concentration of the rookies. These are people far far beyond my level. They’ve done IR, ME, and the whole horror of the ATPL (needed for RHS?) and still they look like me landing a tiny aeroplane. Very very focused, and not always getting it nailed.

I think it’s enjoyable telly. And anything that makes Aviation seem more accessible to “non hero’s” can only be a good thing.

Of course, for full accuracy, we could have a documentary about the full walk around, and the cold and dark start of a 737. With some POH attachments and a quiz. Just to prove that those watching were worthy of fully factual... oh god I’m boring myself. Stop this now. Nice telly is nice.
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Old 19th May 2019, 11:45
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I enjoyed the upping of risk by one of easyJets' top pilots when landing at BFS with an alleged 30 knot crosswind whilst the crab angle was negligible. Steelly eyed and firm jawed. Loved the " Where we going we don't need roads". Comedy genius.

The ground handling at Newcastle also seemed to be operating in another time dimension to that of our intrepid heroes.
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Old 19th May 2019, 23:45
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Originally Posted by Stan Woolley View Post


I think your observation may be valid.
The reason I think it might be so, is because there have likely been few, if any, real scares in their flying lives thus far.
Or perhaps flying is no longer quite so petrifying you can't relax. I'm not sure what else you'd like them to do? Watching the old BA Concorde takeoff procedure on the odd youtube video, it seems like they're about to take the first prototype spaceship to Mars. The airbus isn't like this. Less is more!
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Old 20th May 2019, 11:01
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Originally Posted by giggitygiggity View Post
Or perhaps flying is no longer quite so petrifying you can't relax. I'm not sure what else you'd like them to do? Watching the old BA Concorde takeoff procedure on the odd youtube video, it seems like they're about to take the first prototype spaceship to Mars. The airbus isn't like this. Less is more!
Jamming a camera in the side stick?

Seriously, from the POV of spam in the can, it is no different from getting on a bus, and probably less traumatic than a bus in a mountain pass. You will notice the difference when something actually happens. Moderate turbulence approaching Dalman, power in and around again. I don't know if the pilots heard the screams followed by the applause after their near death experience.
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Old 20th May 2019, 13:04
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Originally Posted by giggitygiggity View Post
Or perhaps flying is no longer quite so petrifying you can't relax. I'm not sure what else you'd like them to do? Watching the old BA Concorde takeoff procedure on the odd youtube video, it seems like they're about to take the first prototype spaceship to Mars. The airbus isn't like this. Less is more!
Maybe Iím old fashioned.
I relaxed when I was in my lounge at home, not when I used to operate aircraft. Even the A320.
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Old 20th May 2019, 19:43
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The commentary was AWFUL!!
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Old 21st May 2019, 01:54
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Interesting to hear the command trainee had 11 years seniority in Easyjet prior to her command upgrade course.

I thought LCC's had quicker times to command? Is this typical for Easyjet or was it just delayed for other reasons?
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Old 21st May 2019, 12:06
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Interesting to hear the command trainee had 11 years seniority in Easyjet prior to her command upgrade course.

I thought LCC's had quicker times to command? Is this typical for Easyjet or was it just delayed for other reasons?
The episode seemed to show her failing the command course , so it would appear that seniority was irrelevant in this case, and (in)ability to complete the course was the deciding factor on that occasion.
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Old 21st May 2019, 12:12
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It was confusing. She failed the course, but then appeared at the very end to have passed it and was in the cockpit on her 'line training'. She still had difficulty driving the 'bus with her left hand.

Being SLF I am used to driving RHD and LHD manual and auto cars, but suspect swapping RHS to LHS seats in an Airbus is a little more taxing.
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Old 21st May 2019, 12:35
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Originally Posted by Espada III View Post

Being SLF I am used to driving RHD and LHD manual and auto cars, but suspect swapping RHS to LHS seats in an Airbus is a little more taxing.
Any two pilot cockpit has a left and a right as throttles are in the centre.
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Old 21st May 2019, 13:39
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I don't know the FO/Capt in training. I think she blew her FO development session and probably passed it later. Then you go on to command training.
11 years? Again I don't know if this is her case, but taking time off for children and some part time would stretch out the time to command by a few years.
The pilot concerned did say that she had previous issues with confidence so perhaps she also delayed applying by a few years as well.

The command process in easyJet isn't a walk in the park - nor should it be.
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Old 21st May 2019, 18:10
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I saw her on 'This Morning' a couple of weeks ago ... and she'd made it to Captain with her 4 bars. Well done that lady and I'd be delighted to be on one of her flights.
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