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Old 30th May 2017, 00:23
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A Couple of Dog Questions

We got a German Shepard just before he was 2 years old, and have had him for about 5.5 years. Have had a number of different animals before, but feel really close to this dog. A few questions- serious:
He's usually in the house. When we eat, does he wonder something like "you people eat a lot of different and interesting smelling food, and all i get is this dog food".
We're doing a lot of remodeling (actually we're still building), anyhow, does he sometimes think "why are you always building and painting" Does he notice?
I'm looking forward to your comments.
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Not being facetious here, but as far as I know, dogs do not "wonder" at all.
I am sure that many avid dog lovers (including my wife) will disagree.

"Wondering" is, at this time, a specifically human trait.
Fortunately for me there is not yet any way to disprove my contention

And I doubt that he's all that interested in your Brussels sprouts anyway.
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Old 30th May 2017, 01:34
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I could accept "wondering" = "curiosity".
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Old 30th May 2017, 01:40
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He's just hanging around wondering if there is something edible involved.
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It is very tempting to ascribe human thought processes to them when they so often display human-like traits.
The sideways head tilt for instance, when you teasingly offer something of great interest to them. What is that about?
It's hard to imagine that as being a purely instinctive behaviour with no embedded meaning or message to the teaser.

But they make the same head tilt motion when they have a rat, cat or rabbit cornered.
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Originally Posted by Bob Lenahan View Post
We got a German Shepard just before he was 2 years old, and have had him for about 5.5 years. Have had a number of different animals before, but feel really close to this dog. A few questions- serious:
He's usually in the house. When we eat, does he wonder something like "you people eat a lot of different and interesting smelling food, and all i get is this dog food".
We're doing a lot of remodeling (actually we're still building), anyhow, does he sometimes think "why are you always building and painting" Does he notice?
I'm looking forward to your comments.
Bob.
In order:

Yes, dogs do wonder about what their humans eat. Ever doubt this, save a tiny serving of whatever you're eating and watch Fido (or whomever) go after it with relish.

Regarding remodeling, et cetera... Yeah, they do pay attention, although they probably only understand that things are changing.

I'm pretty sure that what humans do have a mystifying effect on pets. They sense change, but can't alter it and for the most part don't understand it.

It can take months for a dog to really get comfortable with a doggy door once you install it.

Dogs, cats, rabbits, and gerbils are smart enough to recognize a change in their environment. If you can remodel without too much interruption of a daily schedule, they'll do fine.

Otherwise, they'll rebel and start chewing on stuff.

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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
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"Wondering" is, at this time, a specifically human trait.

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How do you know this?
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Originally Posted by rjtjrt View Post
How do you know this?
I don't.
Read the next line.
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This is a superb book on canine cognition.
It's very readable - and fascinating - but also quite emotive - clearly expressing the author's love for dogs.
I'd never owned a hound until 5 years ago.
We got a Maltese Schitzu - and being someone grounded in science and hard fact, I wanted to learn a bit more about this new creature I was looking after.
The book answers a lot of questions.
Why do they always want to be next to you, and sleep on the bed? Because they're pack animals.
What do they think and feel when you leave them alone in the house for the day, how sensitive is their sense of smell - really - what are the smartest breeds etc.
Our dog continues to amaze me.
He's by no means the sharpest knife in the drawer, but understands many words and commands.
They definitely feel, they have facial expressions (yep - and science is proving it) smile, look sad, depressed - and you become very attuned to their moods.
Lemmy - named after the bassist from Motorhead - is now a firm fifth member of the family.

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I occasionally ask my dog about the latest advances in quantum physics. She sits there and looks at me in a condescending manner as if to say "you wouldn't understand even if I told you".
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He's just hanging around wondering if there is something edible involved.
Just about anything is edible to a dog! My son's dog once ate the contents of a used nappy (diaper)!

In our modern day I often wonder if dogs wonder at their owner's predilection for saving and bagging their sh1t. What on earth do they make of that behaviour?
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Old 30th May 2017, 06:48
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Seriously, my daughter has had two German Shepherds. Neither were foodies and would often ignore titbitd and never begged.

OTOH, our last Scottie who passed away last week was a total foodie. She was 12, not fat, but her day was:
50 gm turkey and sweet potato at 7. A spoon of porridge with Canadian maple syrup, toast crust, then sleep. Tea, at exactly 5, she was very demanding about this and we never found her watch, then about 9, cheese, biscuits, and apple.

She had often been reluctant to come when called in the evening so we encouraged her with a gravy bone. Then she would then go out, come in and demand a gravy bone several times.

She worked out I was deaf, she would nudge me. She was deaf too but understood sign language if it ended in food.

Total foodie.
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Bob Lenahan, I hope that it was a good bottle of wine that that you were enjoying when you to got to wondering what your dog was wondering!!
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All IMHO,

To my knowledge, a dog has no concept of variety, and not much of taste and so will eat anything even remotely edible at any time unless it is sick.

Hence a dog will eat dry dog food until it sated, or there is none left. They will also eat excrement, paper, vegetable matter, cloth, shoes, garden bulbs or tubers, and any animal it can catch and kill without injuring it's self.

Giving a dog human food is a waste and may result in the dog becoming sick or dying through an inability to process a complex diet.

Recent history shows they will attack and kill babies, small children and even adults, but not necessarily as a food source although that could become a secondary "benefit".

A long time dog owner...

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A couple of years ago we came into the possession (not the other way around) of a 9 yo Labrador x poodle. He had been with a lady who had dementia and would forget that she'd fed him. When she went into a nursing home, he was grossly overweight. They put him on a serious diet, which we continued until he was 12 kg lighter at 32kg, which the vet reckons is about right. Funny thing is, now, although he is fed early in the morning, he grazes, and doesn't usually finish his meal until lunchtime or later. A treat, though, is always eaten straight away.
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They're all different........

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Wow! Amazing!
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Old 30th May 2017, 14:57
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Customer, our Scottie would leave some breakfast until after she had porridge and toast
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My experience is that dogs mostly "live in the moment" and don't concern themselves with change and certainly not the "why" of change.
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