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Old 26th Dec 2016, 08:21
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I hope y'all had a merry Brexmas, one of the UK's last In then EU. Despite Brexit, Mother Meatballs somehow found the courage to keep herself together long enough to make a delicious festive dinner.

You know, despite the impending doom, house price crash, mass unemployment and decades of depression, I don't recall Brexit being discussed. Not even once.

Most British companies are optimistic about the future post-Brexit

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Old 26th Dec 2016, 09:46
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long enough to make a delicious festive dinner.
HMBs

Never tried stuffed Ostrich with nutty brexit stuffing
Hope it was good ?

Only joking

Glad to see Jacks fish and chip shop type business are partially optimistic about 2017 what about big companies who employ 1000s or the financial sector who employ 75000 why are they missing in this survey ?

Hope you had a great Christmas Day

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Old 26th Dec 2016, 11:36
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Not everyone is being so Bob Negative

Lord King says Brexit brings 'real opportunities' - BBC News
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 13:30
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And an interesting piece from the Brexters' favourite paper:

So much for the special relationship! Trump's trade chief urges rivals to use 'God-given opportunity' of Brexit to steal trade from Britain | Daily Mail Online
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 15:41
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Someone knows what's best for the country

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...ura-kuenssberg
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 15:57
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So much for the special relationship! Trump's trade chief urges rivals to use 'God-given opportunity' of Brexit to steal trade from Britain | Daily Mail Online
That speech was addressed to Cyprus!!!!!!!! Recent history has shown what a stable financial base that is.
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 16:32
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Originally Posted by Seldomfitforpurpose View Post
Someone knows what's best for the country

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...ura-kuenssberg
ďApparently at this lunch she said: ĎI donít see why we canít just get out. Whatís the problem?í"

Great question
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 17:50
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To all ostriches ( new name for hard brexit ) read what was said in Sally's link
The EU appear to be going hard Ball on the UK and I fear they have given up on our approach which has been unfriendly and a desire to Cherry pick

A mass of industry in big business not jacks fish and chip shop! Are here because of access to 27 EU countries the same with our bread and butter financial services

The EUs other option is to go hard ball and not even agree a transition
Then we can sit back and watch all these companies flee the uk including from
Our financial services into the EU

Hence why I have promoted the softest of Brexit to actually get out with a step by step approach over time

Sadly Lord King is a brexit enthusiast and I would rather listen to our existing Governor
Long term a hard Brexit! WTO rules etc would work but the problem lies getting to that point before the economy implodes
Trump is a businessman and is reading the situation very well
Who is talking about Cyprus he also mentioned Southern Ireland benefiting from the flood of banking steaming out of the UK
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 18:00
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Originally Posted by EGLD View Post
ďApparently at this lunch she said: ĎI donít see why we canít just get out. Whatís the problem?í"

Great question
A partial answer ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/25/wo...in-brexit.html
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 19:34
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Originally Posted by Pace View Post
To all ostriches ( new name for hard brexit )
Mate, let's call it what it is please;

Hard Brexit - Brexit
Soft Brexit - Remain

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oh no! not the European Medicines Agency as well! (sounds like a Quango to me)

Plenty of organizations that were born out of the EU's decision to become a superstate (and go way beyond what we voted to join) will disappear unfortunately, but replacements solutions will appear in their place

Pretty much every reason I've heard given to stay is that the EU has become so overwhelming it's impossible to leave. I've said it before so I'll say it again - that alone is enough reason to go, it's only going to get harder.
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 19:51
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To just go out would be impossible! We are the ones trying leave and as shown in the link on pharmaceutical a lot is tied in contractual obligations as well as protecting our life blood
Financial markets and huge industry here for full EU access

We have staked a lot on our importance to the EU
I really think they have more to gain by washing us down the plug hole and cherry picking from us on our way down

As for Trump I am sure he is happy to sacrifice little England for bigger trade with 27 EU countries
What do we have to offer with 80% of trade in services
Financial services more likely to being eyed up by New York

EGDL

Even the Government are now talking a transitional deal whatever they mean by that ?
Any transitional deal involves agreement with the EU
Maybe we are putting too much on them needing the UK and they will hard ball us with the intention of asset stripping
A transitional deal could be taking on a five year Norway package easy to implement and then negotiate everything else over those five years
Who knows what will happen in those five years to the EU when we may be in a stronger position

Don't let the desperation to leave the way you want mean shooting ourselves in the foot

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Old 26th Dec 2016, 20:44
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Don't let the desperation to leave the way you want mean shooting ourselves in the foot
[sigh]We don't get to choose how we leave[/sigh]. We just leave.
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 20:54
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I don't understand you logic ? If that was the case why wait to years go tomorrow?
Many here keep putting up links suggesting that brexit hasn't damaged us yet brexit hasn't happened at all
We are still legally in exactly the same place as before the referendum
All that has changed is the collapse of our currency clearly based on the type of relationship we will have with the EU on our exit
Norway style brexit and the markets are happy
Just leaving with no agreements and the markets are very unhappy
Hence why the pound is down from 1.45 Euro to 1.17 Euro
Both are leaving
So I don't really understand that statement
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 21:08
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Many here keep putting up links suggesting that brexit hasn't damaged us yet brexit hasn't happened at all
Many here keep putting links up suggesting that brexit has damaged us, yet brexit hasn't happened at all
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 21:41
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Brexit has not happened all that has happened is because of our intention to brexit the pound collapsed

It collapsed literally every time May hinted at a deal which would bring us out of the single market and customs Union

If May Mede a statement tomorrow prioritising market accesss the pound would zoom

There is your Answer
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 21:41
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I'm sure you do understand Pace. We've been through it ad nauseum.
We get to choose when we leave, which looks like being March 2019. But that is the only free choice that we have. We do not have a choice of how we leave. That is to be negotiated with an EU that holds most of the cards.
It really is time you got used to the idea.
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 22:01
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Yes they hold the cards! Our error was thinking we held the cards
I really don't think anyone planned brexit and I also don't think there is a workable plan now just un thought out sound bites
Sadly we will be faced with complying or asset stripping
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 22:25
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Feeding time.
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 22:28
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Our error was thinking we held the cards
We? Count me out of that please! Goodnight.
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 23:09
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Stop feeding the trolls for goodness sake.
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