What is going on in Nice?

[Kulverstukas]

The city of Nice refuses to clear CCTV images of 14 July

From my understanding of what's going on through google translated French sources, there was demand to not duplicate and not put to the public access information from some cameras (possibly - my guess - because of security or personal information breach issues). Which was blown up to "Prosecutor demands to destroy evidence"...

[Kulverstukas]

It's local culture in action.

Just as good example of "civilized word" discussing how to better piss on the dead body of fallen enemy.

[jcjeant]

Hi,

Urgent legal requisition was sent to Nice urban supervision center Wednesday, July 20 and was received July 21, 2016.

By this legal requisition, the Anti-Terrorism Sub-Directorate (SDAT) of the Interior Ministry asked the agents that manage video surveillance City "PROCEED WITH FULL CLEAR" 24 hours of images from cameras and six appointees numbered, but also of all the scenes from the beginning of the attack that took place on the promenade des Anglais, on the night of 14 July.

This request is so unusual that the town of Nice forwarded the scan that reveals the Figaro this new case.

[sitigeltfel]

Originally Posted by Kulverstukas

Just as good example of "civilized word" discussing how to better piss on the dead body of fallen enemy.

You think he is some gallant foe who fought honourably and died a hero's death? No, he was a murderous terrorist piece of excrement who didn't warrant the quick death he enjoyed.

The only things pissing on his body are the fish of the Arabian sea.

[Lonewolf_50]

Originally Posted by Kulverstukas

Thanks, Wolf, my English grammar is really awful

No worries, it's a hard language to learn and use, even for those of us raised with it!

As for "local culture" I don't think you can so easily believe that in your neighbor it's impossible because your country is "civilized" and "cultural".

I said nothing about what won't happen anywhere else, you did. It has become fashionable in that cultural zone (I did not say religion, you did) to resort to that gruesome act. I said I think some of this is copycat behavior (IMO done to terrorize a local audience) and I will stick to that. It's a way of intimidating people to get them to do things you want them to do. (Like everyone who knew that 12 year old).

[Kulverstukas]

This request is so unusual that the town of Nice forwarded the scan that reveals the Figaro this new case.

Can anyone please translate this letter?

[meadowrun]

Do I get this right? The ffrench ministry of the interior is asking/demanding that Nice destroy all video evidence of the atrocity during an ongoing investigation?

[jcjeant]

Hi,

Do I get this right? The ffrench ministry of the interior is asking/demanding that Nice destroy all video evidence of the atrocity during an ongoing investigation?

You get it very right

[meadowrun]

Well then, I'm sure there are very many applicable criminal charges that should be lodged against various members of the ffrench government toute de suite unless sabotaging or interfering with an official investigation is not a crime in Bizzaro ffrance.

[MrSnuggles]

What could be even the remotest of reasons they would do such a thing?

Any explanations anywhere?

[Kulverstukas]

Any explanations anywhere?

Jet fuel cannot melt steel beams?

[TURIN]

Originally Posted by MrSnuggles

What could be even the remotest of reasons they would do such a thing?

Any explanations anywhere?

Good taste and respect for the dead?

[MrSnuggles]

Ah, you mean I misunderstood?

I gathered that this memo was to destroy evidence BEFORE it had been handed over to investigators.

[Rwy in Sight]

I never thought french would be useful when ppruning but it does today.

In this site Attentat de Nice : la ville refuse de détruire 24 heures d'images de vidéosurveillance it states that Judiciary Police have the materiel they need for the case and they want to erase it from the camera server to protect from nefarious uses (ie not to allow jihadists to use it as propaganda material).

Any other french speaker here willing to comment?

[jcjeant]

Hi,

La municipalité refuse et va demander au procureur de mettre ces images sous séquestre.

The municipality refuses and will ask the prosecutor to bring these images into receivership.
So it's no nefarious use possible .. they will be locked
These videos are important for the result of the investigation who are challenged and that the Minister of the Interior (Cazeneuve) requested an other (counter) investigation by a service he controls himself
Conflict of interest !!

[Lonewolf_50]

jc, I recall your long rants in the AF 447 thread about conspiracies to suppress, etc. Rwy In Sight's post looks like a reasonable assessment of how the information age works, and how certain parties in this world exploit the world wide web. (I remember with some clarity the "cut off their heads" videos a few Islamist groups in Iraq produced).

I appreciate your mistrust of the people in government, we have a similar skepticism over here. Sometimes the people in government do get it right, however. I am leaning toward Rwy In Sight's PoV on this given what's been going on for the past decade or so.

[sitigeltfel]

One of the victims severely injured in the attack has died in hospital, bringing the death toll to 85.

[sitigeltfel]

The 86th victim succumbed to his injuries earlier today

Le bilan de l'attentat de Nice s'alourdit, une 86e victime succombe à ses blessures - Nice-Matin