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Old 7th Apr 2016, 01:32
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To add to MH's list, I think one of the best Sci Fi films was To serve Man.
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Old 7th Apr 2016, 04:18
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If you have never seen it, watch Carrie, all the way to the end.

I had a friend tell me the ending first, and that's probably a good thing, taken as a whole, because it's as good or better than that chest-bursting scene from Alien when it comes to sheer sudden fright.

Blade Runner is tops in my book as an SF film, but have a read of "The Long Tomorrow" to see part of what it's based on. I loved that dystopian, grimy LA where it's almost always raining.

Galaxy Quest is just great. That poor guy played by Alan Rickman, trained at RADA but forced to say "By Grabthar's Hammer ... " for one nerd after another until he finally snaps ... again and again ....
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Old 7th Apr 2016, 06:34
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Chuks. Blade Runner was based on Do Androids dream of electric sheep, but what part of the film was based on The long tomorrow?
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Old 7th Apr 2016, 09:11
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Originally Posted by Mostly Harmless View Post
Alien: A great horror movie set in space.

Aliens: A great action movie set in space.

Alien 3 and up: Should never have been made.

Great Sci-Fi movies:
2001
2010
Blade Runner
Terminator 1 and 2 (they should have stopped right there)
The Matrix (shouldn't have made any sequels)
District 9
Star Trek 2
Back to the Future (the whole trilogy was excellent)
Planet of the Apes (original)
Mad Max
Road Warrior (should have stopped there)
Predator
Star Wars (the original)
They Live
Inception

As a partial list.
Absolutely spot on MH, totally concur!

Star Trek 2 - Wrath of Khan; another favourite of mine:

"KHAAAAAAAAANN!!"

" To the last I grapple with thee. From hell's heart I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."

" I've done far worse than kill you. I've hurt you. And I wish to go on... hurting you. I shall leave you as you left me, as you left her. Marooned for all eternity, in the center of a dead planet... buried alive. Buried alive."

I can watch WOK aging and again, in fact whenever it's on TV, the whole family groan as they know what I'll be doing.

Bladerunner is a fascinating one, I really didn't like it when I saw it first at the cinema but after a second view, I was hooked. Very clever, distopian and atmospheric. Interesting to see a few 'feel good actors' of the time playing quite dark characters. Harrison Ford, Daryl Hannah, Sean Young, James Edward Olmos etc.

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Old 7th Apr 2016, 11:35
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Although Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep? is usually credited as the source for Blade Runner, I think that a much more obvious source is The Long Tomorrow. Here, have a look: Weiterleitungshinweis

There you have the cynical private eye; the city set in a dystopian future; a sort of replicant, seductive female; many of the key elements of Blade Runner that are not as obvious in Dick's novel.

A really good read, if you like "alternate history," is Dick's The Man in the High Castle. It's taken by some to have been the finest work by Dick.

I can't remember where I read it, but there's an alternative history of the Second World War where the Germans and the Japanese attack the Panama Canal from each end using their powerful battleships, putting it out of service and thus neutralizing much of US naval power so that we do not enter the war. Then the Axis powers win.

What makes that work so interesting is that it was quite possible as an event; there was nothing really different from historical fact that had to be inserted.

The Panama Canal was lightly protected against the sort of sneak attack that the work posited, while the German battleships Bismarck and Tirpitz were already in service in late 1941, with the Yamato having been commissioned in mid-December of that year.

Admiral Yamamoto was a brilliant strategist, so that such an attack is something that he might well have envisioned instead of the somewhat flawed attack on Pearl Harbor instead, an attack that he had advised against.
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Old 7th Apr 2016, 12:25
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I've read both of those PKD novels Chuks, but I'll have to look up The Long Tomorrow & have a gander. Thanks chuks.

As for Blade Runner, I think Vangelis' score was also a brilliant choice that added to the whole experience but, to be honest, I will watch the whole film just to hear Rutger Hauer utter his final lines. Just totally wraps up the whole film in a few short words...

Batty: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
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Buster, according to IMDB Rutger Hauer ad-libbed those lines.
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I'd heard that he re-wrote the original line & performed it without Ridley Scott's knowledge, but not that it was ad libbed...interesting either way. Mark of a true performer.

Edit: Found the script online and it quotes...
BATTY
I've seen things... (long pause) seen things you little people wouldn't believe...
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium...
I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched c-beams glitter in the dark
near the Tanhauser Gate. (pause) all those moments... they'll be gone.


http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/b..._shooting.html

Who knows what version this was though.
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Buster, just click on the link in my post #46. It's a short read, just a graphic short story if you will.
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Ha! Okay, will do chuks...
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See the Wrath of Khan is getting a few mentions. Great film, and worth it for this scene alone...


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One thing worth noting about Alien is that several people involved in making it came from preproduction on a version of Dune that couldn't raise enough funding to get into production. Giger was going to do much of the design for that, too, and if you watch the documentary about the Dune movie, a lot of the set design looks very familiar.
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BTW, Blade Runner sequel is now in production.
Hollywood's lack of imagination is well oiled.
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Old 7th Apr 2016, 18:17
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Really? That would make sense. The sets were along the same dark lines.

Dune was another fascinating film - again, not keen on first viewing but now I love it. Quite bizarre but totally different from the sterile, white walled sci fi that someone mentioned earlier. Mind you, the book was even better.

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Old 7th Apr 2016, 21:46
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Let me see now Sci Fi Classics, Dark, Aliens and Featuring Dan O'Bannon?
Has to be the John Carpenter classic Dark Star, which when it was shown on TV had the tag line "In Space no one can hear you Laugh!"
Scariest Alien I've ever seen.
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Old 7th Apr 2016, 22:17
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Attack O The Rubber Suited Actor!

Has anybody seen this precursor to Alien ?

chuks: Fascinating link to that story. Interesting to see how bits of that plus bits of Philip K Dick's story came together in Bladerunner. I read a sequel to it some years ago, one of those semi ghost written things using scraps of Dick's ideas. Absolute sh1te. I can't imagine the film sequel being much better.

Two Alien stories: in 1980 or thereabouts the student film soc showed Alien. Come the escape pod undressing scene there is a hush amongst us students as Ripley's top starts to rise up only to reveal a second top beneath. From the darkness came a loud "Oh no!" which expressed all our feelings.
Roll forward a few years I'm in my first job and we're converting one of the old Hafield propellor test tunnels into an acoustic chamber. Before the builders came in I went to poke around the old set up. It was a long, hexagonal tube 10-15m AF full of old bits machinery, girders, chains hanging from the roof and so on with almost no light. I'm alone in the midst of this thinking this looks just like the place Brett met his grisly end; at the first drip from above I was out of there at a rush!

Found a photo of the tunnels under construction
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I like Riddick,he int got no sissy stun setting on his phaser.
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Nice one WM, Dark Star! Saw it kind of by accident as a young fella, loved it.
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 14:13
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Ripley: This little girl survived longer than that with no weapons and no training!


Hudson: Then why don't we put her in charge!?


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