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Metrojet Flight 9268,whodunnit?

Old 8th Nov 2015, 12:34
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nah it would've been already known if there was someone important on the plane
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 12:41
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Well just think about it, Cui Bono.
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 13:56
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The video is doing just what it was designed to do. Not really designed for Western eyes. Like the choir being preached to, the "true believers" will have been eminently happy with such "proof".
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 13:56
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Assuming that is was a bomb on the aircraft.

ISIS will claim they did it.

If Russia...
If the US...
If the Israelis...
If the UK...

Had any involvement in it then we will never know.

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Old 8th Nov 2015, 14:13
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Apropos the noise in R & N.

"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the internet, we know this is not true"
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 14:18
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tony draper Well just think about it, Cui Bono.

Maybe the Russian version of "Halliburton" or the non Russian version!
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 15:29
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The French don't want anyone to think their aeroplanes might fall apart
Gee, and I thought Hamburg was in Germany.
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 15:38
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OK, on the basis that is was a bomb, as far as I have read the ISIL/DAESH lot has never claimed an atrosity it didn't commit, nor post a video that wasn't real. Before anyone starts, yes, I know, there's always a first time for everything, but this group's credibility amongst its own supporters depends on to some extent on maintaining this position. So, ask yourself, what is more likely?

I have neither the technical expertise nor equipment to be able to verify if the video is real or falsified, but it would surely be foolhardy to simply dismiss it as an 'obvious' fabrication as some have done. Besides, whether real or not the fact that so many different countries have suspended flights to and over various locations in Egypt rather points a finger, does it not?

We could speculate about all sorts of other parties and countries that might have a reason to see a Russian airliner blown up, but whatever conspiracy theory you might like to think up, the highest probability must surely rest with religiously-motivated terrorists. They are claiming it after all. If the video is real, then it proves they did it.

So, how was it done? That is the key. The fact that all flights to SSH are keeping their hold doors firmly closed provides another strong pointer. Question is, was it a passenger hold bag (terrorist pax), a passenger hold bag that was tampered with (by whom and where?), was a device simply secreted in the hold during loading (by whom and when?). Are there any other possibilities? Perhaps in the cold light of day, it's just that simple.
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 17:40
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It was the Malaysians wot dunnit, in revenge for MH17 and MH370. (Y'all know that the Rooshans were behind MH370, yeah?
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 18:45
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It was the Malaysians wot dunnit, in revenge for MH17 and MH370.
That's going a bit far. MH17 obviously yes, but MH370 is stretching it somewhat.

Of course there's "whodunit" on the ground and "who supplied the cash / technology / whatever".
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 19:10
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The other thread is asking for a pic of a complete tailplane (HS) assembly, here it is https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...B6henruder.jpg
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 21:47
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Is there any difference from a financial recompense point of view (i.e. post crash payouts) between it being caused by aircraft failure or by terrorist attack?

Is any insurance voided if it's a terrorist attack?

Any chance that this could affect the result?
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 21:57
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Of course there will always be those who believe that banging harder on the typewriter helps.
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Old 9th Nov 2015, 11:45
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It'll be a bit crisp if another Rooshian A/c goes down, we might even see the atomising of the sad sandpit areas,..."that'll show em who's Boss"
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Old 9th Nov 2015, 13:50
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C'mon everybody, it's perfectly obvious who was behind it... just look who had the greatest motive...

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Old 9th Nov 2015, 14:15
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The result is just the same...wreckage and flesh spread over a large area,

Re:- payouts....I think, we are told the URS are quite up to date, so possibly the State will pay out....!

Wont they...?
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Old 9th Nov 2015, 17:16
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Originally Posted by funfly View Post
I must admit that I follow the thread continuously. I like the speculation of qualified and unqualified people and try to make my own mind up. It's like sitting in the pub or club room listening to the general chatter and occasionally putting in ones own three-penneth.

What gets my piss are the people who every now and again post that the thread aught to be closed because 'non qualified' people are posting rubbish. One assumes that only their opinion is worth listening to.
I do have some sympathy with the 'elitist' view, though. There’s some very well informed debate by people who clearly know what they’re talking about. Unfortunately, there’s also a lot of badly informed speculation by people who clearly don’t, but nevertheless think they have some sort of unique insight. Plus, of course, the normal wacky conspiracy theorists and Walter Mitty’s who think that throwing a few acronyms and industry buzzwords around makes them look like a professional. Personally, I like to read those sort of threads in R&N, but as someone with a casual rather than professional interest in aviation I think I have a responsibility to restrict myself to observer status as far as possible.

This sort of arrangement works well; a serious discussion on R&N, and a broader free for all on Jet Blast that anyone can get involved with.

Incidentally, a word of support for the Mods. They have their work cut out any time there’s an air disaster, and I get a bit fed up of people complaining how their posts have been moderated out. It happens OK, don’t take offence.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 06:34
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According to some news feeds the Egyptians are still using the ADE651 "bomb detector" that was widely discredited during a fraud trial which landed its inventor ten years in jail!

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Old 10th Nov 2015, 09:34
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In the current climate,I wouldn't have gone anywhere near that region,especially to a resort with thousands of other Brits,Russians etc.

Look at what happened in Tunisia,ISIS or whoever backed that atrocity,wanted to destroy the tourist trade,perhaps as punishment for 'consorting with non-believers'.Sharm was a huge target for the likes of ISIS,there was even speculation here on the thread about Tunisia that an attack on Sharm would come from the sea.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 10:07
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The Western World population always seem to want to be daring and adventurous in how we take our Holidays,... I suppose I am no different, however,... I would never, ever think of exposing my children/grandchildren, or my wife to the vagaries of areas of the world where Fanatical religious intolerance that is so often seen on the screens and in newspapers exists, to step foot into such cauldrons of turmoil, in such volatile areas is in my humble opinion tantamount to stupidity..........Yes such holidays are low cost even cheap when you look at the destinations..but what value do we compare our loved ones..too !

Everyone in the middle east owns an AK47 and a bag of bullets.. do we here in GB or any of the EU states hold such weapons..I don't think so..!

So Why GO THERE.........
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