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Friends daughter doing Gap Year - Advice needed

Old 26th Oct 2015, 11:34
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Sawadee Khap from Thailand.
Drink lots and lots of water.
If on beach wear sunscreen, the Sun is murderous on whitey Farangs.
Avoid and don't get near anyone using drugs. Penalties are extremely harsh.
Don't be afraid to eat street food, cheap and very good. Remember the word 'pet' which means spicy. Pet nit noi is spicy small, pet mai is spicy not. Pet mak mak is spicy very. Good luck with that one!
If they don't ride motorbikes in their own Country don't hire one in Thailand.
Thais are great people but drive like idiots.
If after a tropical paradise visit KoH Chang
A bum bag is a good idea to keep passport and cash safe.
A smile and learning a few Thai words can get you everywhere in Thailand.
Check out Thaivisa.com and teak door.com for good info.
Travel light, laundry is dirt cheap or you can wash in room.
Have a great time, I love the place.
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 13:58
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Being a typical 18 yr old she knows its all, stubborn as a mule, pig headed
When she gets to Australia she'll fit right in.
Seriously, what Parabellum said re hitchhiking. I know it's still a viable option in Europe but in Australia don't even think about it, particularly as a teenaged girl. A little light reading...we're not all koalas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpacker_murders
Other than that;
Car accidents.
These kill and injure more young foreign tourists in Australia than all the nasty animals and serial killers combined. Fraser Island, Kakadu and the Daintree are notorious for vehicle rollover accidents. Often a group of tourists hired a 4WD car and ventured offroad without knowing how to handle the conditions. In other cases they booked with what looked like a reputable company, only to find that wasn't the case.
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If she's keen to go offroad (and it's well worth doing) suggest that she books directly with a reputable local agency. PM me or the other Oz regulars if you're looking for referrals or throw the question onto the Oz politics thread. Otherwise IMO Tripadvisor is pretty good at identifying good operators. Either way tell her to be very, very buyer beware, because there are a lot of incompetent 'outback' tourism operators out there. The same applies to diving, climbing, skiing and other riskyish activities. Just because they can talk the talk online doesn't mean they know what they are doing; there are a huge number of really lousy 'adventure tourism' providers in Australia who can't run a bath, let alone a high-risk group activity. I've seen them in action and it's not pretty.

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Old 26th Oct 2015, 16:20
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Back in the mid 70s when I left Uni, non of this Oz travels and Asia back packing. Two weeks in Benidorm opened my eyes, one meets people from all over the globe. Made a man out of me.
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 17:27
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My son did a year in Oz, he spoke to me twice whilst there, and when he returned he was just like everyone's idea of a wild young Aussie, Long hair, laid back, and spoke ..well just like an Aussie, but he was accepted into an training system with a certain ginger nutted guy, went on an activity tour for few years paid for by Tony Bliar ( sorry we all paid,... some more then others) and is know raising a family.

But he was a lad who needed some worldly wise ideas putting into his head, in no way would I have agreed to any of my daughters doing something similar..!!
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 19:45
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Please keep the advice and suggestions coming as intend to print it out minus any details of anybody and hand it to her............. might delete the calling her pig headed bit

She will probably ignore most advice but as she travelling with 2 friends if all read then something will register.

Its probable when all return, everything worked etc they will think what was the worry about.

However having read the advice they may just decide on just one occasion to use a "reputable" tour guide somewhere rather than the dodgy one.
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 19:55
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Best advice I ever heard was:

Take only half your luggage and double your money!!!

(Rudyard Kipling???)
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 20:03
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You had better hope that your daughter meets someone on her travels who can shelter her from the storm, as Mr Dylan says:

T'was in another lifetime one of toil and blood
When blackness was a virtue, the road was full of mud
I came in from the wilderness a creature void of form
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

And if I pass this way again you can rest assured
I'll always do my best for her on that I give my word
In a world of steel-eyed death and men who are fighting to be warm
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

Not a word was spoke between us there was little risk involved
Everything up to that point had been left unresolved
Try imagining a place where it's always safe and warm
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

I was burned out from exhaustion buried in the hail
Poisoned in the bushes and blown out on the trail
Hunted like a crocodile ravaged in the corn
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

Suddenly I turned around and she was standing there
With silver bracelets on her wrists and flowers in her hair
She walked up to me so gracefully and took my crown of thorns
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

Now there's a wall between us something there's been lost
I took too much for granted, I got my signals crossed
Just to think that it all began on an uneventful morn
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

Well the deputy walks on hard nails and the preacher rides a mount
But nothing really matters much it's doom alone that counts
And the one-eyed undertaker he blows a futile horn
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

I've heard newborn babies wailing like a mourning dove
And old men with broken teeth stranded without love
Do I understand your question man, is it hopeless and forlorn?
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

In a little hilltop village they gambled for my clothes
I bargained for salvation and she gave me a lethal dose
I offered up my innocence, I got repaid with scorn
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

Well I'm living in a foreign country but I'm bound to cross the line
Beauty walks a razor's edge someday I'll make it mine
If I could only turn back the clock to when God and her were born
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 20:07
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Take only half your luggage and double your money!!!
There is logic in this.

Buy 'what you need' rather than taking 'what you might need' and end up carrying 'what you don't need'.

Of course that depends on being where the locals acquire their necessities.
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 21:00
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Originally Posted by exuw View Post
racedo

You had better hope that your daughter meets someone on her travels who can shelter her from the storm, as Mr Dylan says:
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Trust me that thankfully is not going to happen for a very LONG time................... really still a littlie.

SWMBO has suggested that when she eventually gets ready to date when she is 30................................. personally I think 40 is a better age
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 21:32
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A few minutes spent online to research the value of things (average salary, what a unit of the currency in each country buys a local) etc might prevent the worst of the rip-off experiences.

Always keep some antiseptic handy. (My preferred option is iodine or betadine.) Even the smallest of grazes or insect bites can go septic pretty quickly in the tropics.

The mind and body will work at half speed (if you're lucky) during the first few days in a hot country. Allow extra time for everything. Hydrate, frequently.

The beer in Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore is fairly horrid. The beer in Laos and Vietnam is highly recommended.

The drivers in NZ are mostly disabled. Either blind or enjoying some advanced variant of ADHD. Take buses. Or fly. Never cross the road.

If she goes tramping or hiking in NZ, casually mention that every year tourists wander into "the bush" and some are never seen again. Weather and terrain kill. It's easy to get lost. The weather can go from pleasant to lethal in an hour or two.
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 21:35
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One little bit of advice is not to get in the habit of phoning / skyping Mum at a regular time every week/month/year or whatever. Frequent calls are good but if he/she misses a 'regular slot' it causes worry!
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 00:28
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The beer in Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore is fairly horrid.
Can't agree with that statement, beer quite drinkable, I thought, but local wines are like paint stripper!
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 03:00
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 07:51
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Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
Can't agree with that statement, beer quite drinkable, I thought, but local wines are like paint stripper!
Do you like VB, or Fosters?
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 08:00
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Do you like VB, or Fosters?
...or do you prefer beer?
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 14:59
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Beer in Singapore was fine when I was there about 10years ago. Tiger gone out of business or something ??
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 15:13
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Beer in Singapore was fine when I was there about 10years ago. Tiger gone out of business or something ??
Owned by Heineken now, but otherwise very much present and correct.
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 20:35
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I lived in Singapore for 2 years,10 years ago.Didn't like Tiger at all,ended up drinking Heineken.
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Old 29th Oct 2015, 05:41
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I live in Aus and have had 2 sons who have done the travel thing (more that just gap years) and our youngest (late 30's) now lives in Bangkok, so we've travelled there and Singapore often enough to offer some thoughts:

Always try the local beer - I like Singapore and Thai beer (and not Fosters or many other Aus beers, and no Kiwi beers - lived there for 2 years and couldn't find a decent one) - it's a personal thing and I don't insult any one else's taste (unless they drink Corona, which proves they have no taste).

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Koh Chang island in Thailand is great - touristy enough, but a far cry from the major tourist islands and resorts, which these days are getting overrun by Russians and other similar tourists (In addition to the established Aussie bogans). There are so many wonderful places to explore.

Be very aware of the potential trouble opportunities at Full Moon parties, buckets of booze, etc. It is easy to be safe, but equally as easy to end up in a terrible situation.

Avoid drugs of any sort. Prison in SE Asia is not fun.

Have very good travel insurance (our son was mugged in Banff, Canada, and the medical insurance picked up all the bills - $150,000 of costs)

If possible, have local contacts you can count on wherever you are.

If she wants any first hand advice on travelling in Thailand (BKK or the islands or the country); Vietnam; Cabodia, Lao etc (again - cities or villages that you have to get to by river) you are welcome to PM me and I can put you in touch with my son directly. He also has first hand experience of Thai medical system
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Old 30th Oct 2015, 13:12
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Do you like VB, or Fosters?
That's like asking if you'd prefer to be strangled or garotted.
Squire, Boag or Little Creatures is a fairer question. Or the Burleigh Brewing Company, but they're only local.
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