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Old 14th Oct 2015, 09:04
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Americans insist on that fine tune The Star Spangled Banner being sung unaccompanied at events such as ball games and political meetings, it sounds bloody ghastly invariable murdered by various celebs,for gawds sake hire a orchestra to play a backing forrem or get a proper Welsh Choir to sing it.
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 09:18
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A 'One size - fits all' approach - aka Patriotism!. Furthermore, it's probably the only tune that the majority of our American cousins recognise.

If we asked for a suitable alternative, we'd probably get a Britney Spears/Beyonce mumbling as opposed to our offerings: 'Jerusalem' and 'Land of hope and glory' etc etc
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I agree that any a capella rendition of that song by a showbiz "identity" runs the severe risk of inducing bleeds from the ear.

Much better would be if someone could persuade Jim Steinman to produce an arrangement of the tune to be played at level 11.5 through a stack of Marshall amps with Meat Loaf doing the vocals.

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Good point Cap'n D.
At my daughter's naturalization ceremony in Sacramento, a woman sang it unaccompanied and it sounded absolutely bloody awful!
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Best rendition I have heard was on a Moog Synthesiser.
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Or a kazoo . . .
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 12:25
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Jimi Hendrix did the best version. 'Nuff said.
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 12:50
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Originally Posted by exuw
Much better would be if someone could persuade Jim Steinman to produce an arrangement of the tune to be played at level 11.5 through a stack of Marshall amps with Meat Loaf doing the vocals.
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 12:52
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Interesting tune...originally a slightly bawdy drinking song, of the Anacreonic society.
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Unfortunately it is creeping in over here now, though there is usually the backing of a military band. At the risk of sounding like a snob most pop stars give a rendition that would have the Queen begging to be struck deaf.
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 13:32
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bawdy drinking songs - surely there is no other way
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I'm sure there'd be far more votes in them singing Hotel California
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 15:41
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My daughter sang it twice at the local ball park.
She is a trained soprano.
It sounded pretty good, so y'all can bugger off with your complaints about our national anthem ... and it's IMO great that it came from a drinking song. (Looked up the song lyrics some years ago and wondered if I'd ever be able to sing it while pissed ... not great vocal chords on me).
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Totally agree Drapes. I cant imagine why the cousins, who have a brilliant national anthem (having nicked the tune from the Brits, of course) should have allowed to it to have become associated with hyped up sporting events where it is almost always sung in a ridiculous, overblown way. Still, over here the rugby authorities have taken a lovely tune from Holst's Planets and set it to words as The World in Union as the theme of the Rugby World Cup. Successive world cups have seen worse and worse versions, which have reached a nadir this year with the execrable version by Paloma Faith. It's so bad it has even prompted an online petition to demand its removal from the ITV coverage!

Rugby World Cup: fans petition ITV to replace 'truly awful' Paloma Faith theme music - Telegraph

Lonewolf - its not your great anthem we are complaining about - it's the totally dire treatment it gets from so called singers. I'm sure your daughter coped well - better than Paloma Faith would, that's for sure!
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Hempy.

Like I said - kwolliddeee.
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I've always been curious why they sing this song which commemorates a losing battle of one of their wars which they failed to win.

Tony, it was obviously one of your guys' bombs that were bursting in air.
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Originally Posted by ExXB View Post
I've always been curious why they sing this song which commemorates a losing battle of one of their wars which they failed to win.

Tony, it was obviously one of your guys' bombs that were bursting in air.
It is a tribute to the flag which, at the Fort, still flew after a pretty vigorous naval bombardment. The flag is the symbol of our nation. I am sure that you can parse the rest if you put your brain cells to it.

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No, we didn't lose the battle. Read here.
The Battle of Baltimore was a sea/land battle fought between British
invaders and American defenders in the War of 1812. American forces repulsed sea and land invasions off the busy port city of Baltimore, Maryland, and killed the commander of the invading British forces. The British and Americans first met at North Point.[9] Though the Americans retreated, the battle was a successful delaying action that inflicted heavy casualties on the British, halted their advance and allowed the defenders at Baltimore to properly prepare for an attack. The resistance of Baltimore’s Fort McHenry during bombardment by the Royal Navy inspired Francis Scott Key to compose the poem "Defence of Fort McHenry" which later became the lyrics for "The Star-Spangled Banner," the national anthem of the United States of America. ...

Colonel Brooke’s troops withdrew, and Admiral Cochrane’s fleet sailed off to regroup before his next (and final) assault on the United States, at the Battle of New Orleans. Armistead was soon promoted to lieutenant colonel. Much weakened by the arduous preparations for the battle, he died at age 38, only three years after the battle.
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And then there was Robert Goulet who started off and found out mid way that he did not know all the words. Oops
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 17:31
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Yes, Robert Goulet was a Canadian.. I remember it as a cringe worthy moment.

Singing anthems is becoming the sole preserve of sporting events. I've questioned the singing of anthems since I was an Air Cadet, regardless, why not sing it during an unveiling of an indigenous piece of art? Why not sing it at a grand opening of a significant edifice? Many public gatherings commence without any anthem sung. Why is it sung mostly at sporting events? A throwback to battle cries spurring nationalism, or worse, tribalism?
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The national anthem of the USA is a great and inspiring song that says much about early American perseverance, like other I cringe at some of the hideous manglings it is subjected to -doesn't have to be militairily themed but it does need gravitas otherwise the effect is ruined.

A bit like when the Aussis at RWC 2003 played the Marseillaise too slowly and took all the heat and passion out of a song that literally represents France in its wonderful contrasting sounds and strident words.

oddly the only anthem that does sound really good when 'popped up' is the Russian one, grand and inspiring in itself it carries a fairly heavy rock beat really well -a sort of slightly threatening forceful tone for Putin Russia as opposed to the grimness struggle and ultimate victory of Stalins.

I don't like out UK anthem at all I am afraid, I would prefer something that referred to love and allegiance to my country rather than a German granny but I hope to god it never gets the US treatment .

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