Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

Where does the UN imagine all these people are going to go?

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

Where does the UN imagine all these people are going to go?

Old 18th Sep 2015, 17:40
  #521 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: uk
Posts: 1,651
Another quote from the Littlejohn article:

"We live in the Age of Stupid, where noisy emoting has replaced quiet intelligence."

And this comes from the Daily Mail, a paper that has done more to encourage "noisy emoting" than any other publication I can think of. And he dares to criticise politicians who carry out their own version of "emoting".
pulse1 is online now  
Old 18th Sep 2015, 17:56
  #522 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 61
Posts: 5,585
Originally Posted by Linerider View Post
Immigrants in Sweden are protesting because they say the quality of housing, the food, the area they live in, and the service which is offered to them is not good enough.
Invite them to leave, and return to their home country to continue their protest there over how unsatisfactory such things are.
Lonewolf_50 is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2015, 19:13
  #523 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Newcastle/UK
Posts: 1,473
I think our news media should be serverely sanctioned as well,they no longer inform on events they just flock to whatever trouble spot there is and stir up more problems than there already is.
tony draper is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2015, 19:17
  #524 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Oxfordshire, UK
Posts: 14
Dont shoot the messenger......have some feckin facts...

Danish teenage girl stabbed mother to death after watching Isil videos with Islamist boyfriend - Telegraph
Norman Deplume is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2015, 20:58
  #525 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Planet earth
Posts: 402
Well, i foresee a steep succes of extreme right parties. Perhaps not immediately, but in the long run..yes absolutely. And if it continues like this and givng those people asylum....well a clash between moslims and other believers. Perhaps that is what the asylum people are looking for.
dboy is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2015, 22:00
  #526 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Australia
Posts: 543
maliyahsdad2 said:

In some ways the whole situation is akin to one of those parties that get advertised on Facebook.
Word spreads.
Too many turn up, some are undesirable, they eat all your food, they drink all your drink, they trash your house, they take anything of value, they leave and you are left living in a sh!t hole thinking how the hell am I going to clean this mess up.
You got it right in part, but absolutely wrong in one rather important area. If I may redraft your original post to reflect the situation as I see it:

In some ways the whole situation is akin to one of those parties that get advertised on Facebook.

Word spreads.

Too many turn up, some are undesirable, they eat all your food, they drink all your drink, they trash your house, they take anything of value, they don't leave, but take up residence in your living room and force you to sign across half your pay to them for the rest of your life and you are left sharing your house that they turn into a sh!t hole thinking how the hell am I going to get rid of these freeloaders and clean this mess up.
I won't go into their insistence - under threat of death - that you and your family adopt the way of life they were "forced" to escape before inviting themselves into your home. Or the rate at which they will (over)fill your home with children they will insist YOU pay for.
MTOW is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2015, 22:12
  #527 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Australia
Posts: 543
Immigrants in Sweden are protesting because they say the quality of housing, the food, the area they live in, and the service which is offered to them is not good enough.
I've asked this question more than a week ago, but how long before we see a large group of these country shoppers decide that the upmarket home of some retirees in some upmarket suburb is wasted on a two elderly people and far more suitable for twelve of them than the poor quality accommodation that was provided to them in a not so nice area and kick the elderly couple out and move in and squat?

What would the same (misnamed) "authorities" who are letting these freeloaders into the country en masse do if some squatters kicked out a whole street (or streets) of elderly (or not so elderly) residents and took up residence "because it is their (human) right"? As they are claiming as they cross the border?

That's what they're doing now on a national scale. What I've just described above is exactly the same thing on a personal scale.
MTOW is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 02:23
  #528 (permalink)  
short flights long nights
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 3,071
I see the EU itself now, is admitting that only one in five country shoppers are from Syria.

MTOW has a very valid point. Ms Merkel seems to think that it's ok for these people to disregard laws and national borders.So if and when these people decide to take over personal property, what then? She has endorsed the wholesale invasion of Europe, why not the wholesale invasion of people's homes?

And before you think I'm being extreme, if I told you a year ago, that hundreds of thousands of people would be allowed to storm through Europe, with no ID, break down barriers, ignore any rule of law and just keep demanding stuff until they got it, you would have said I was mad.
SOPS is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 03:02
  #529 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Australia
Posts: 543
Reports from Croatia say that only 1/5th of these immigrants are from Syria.

I would have expected the figure to be closer to 1/20th. Every man and his dog is on to this gravy train. I know this thread is about Europe's current travails, but Australia pre-empted Europe with this particular problem by a decade or so. However, I honestly believe Australia's problems started when Sydney hosted the Olympic Games. Thousands of people from the Third World saw (a) what a nice place Australia was to live in and (b) that the government would give you money to sit on your arse in Australia and do nothing - for life. Stories of incredulous Third World visitors quizzing taxi drivers and other Australians abounded at the time.

The 'welfare for all comers' in western Europe and the UK is a very close parallel to this - a pull factor that few can resist.

They came, they saw - and the next bit of that hoary old saying is being played out in Europe as we speak. What no one, either among our ever-obliging huggy fluff Left or the uninvited immigrants has seemed to ask is quite important: after they've overwhelmed the current societies they are invading - (for that's the only appropriate word) - and the majority become takers of the welfare-for-all, where will the money come from to sustain this wonderland?

Perhaps that's a question that should be posed - and damn soon - to Frau Markel and every other politician who is in a position to do something about the situation before we reach that point.
MTOW is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 03:50
  #530 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hong Kong SAR
Age: 76
Posts: 292
When I read this, I thought that the French had a new policy to stop the influx.

A migrant has died after being electrocuted at the entrance to the Eurotunnel in Calais, French police have said.
Seems it was not policy - just an accident...
CISTRS is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 05:02
  #531 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 840
if I told you a year ago, that hundreds of thousands of people would be allowed to storm through Europe, with no ID, break down barriers, ignore any rule of law and just keep demanding stuff until they got it, you would have said I was mad.

Been putting up with that from "asylum seekers" here for years.

I'm sure Merkel has an agenda.

If they all got conscripted that would be at least 800,000 fit young soldiers
Clare Prop is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 05:13
  #532 (permalink)  
Thought police antagonist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
Posts: 956
To judge from the many right wing self-appreciation society's posts on here, migration, and the lack of any understanding of the humanitarian crisis now unfolding in Europe, has now replaced Viagra as the stimulant of choice.

That, and it would appear many do not have a basic understanding of the English language.

The constant use of the term "invasion" exemplifies this statement.

Whilst being suitably emotive to support the views of many who post, sadly, this is woefully and factually incorrect. As far as I am aware, and I could be wrong of course, an invasion generally involves the use of military force, arms and conflict.

What an invasion does not involve, in case you have missed these sights on the various media reports, is a mass exodus of unarmed people, women, children, the elderly and those impaired.

This exodus is therefore defined as a migration. It's easy to understand how the right wing's confusion arises therefore, with both words ending in "ion".

Meanwhile, rather late in the course of events, enter the ever facile comments of UKIP....

Ukip MEP blasts EU for helping refugees while grass left uncut in Essex | Politics | The Guardian

Apart from a "wonderful" grasp of priorities, quite what the correlation is between migrants..... and not cutting the pristine verges in Essex remains one of those great unsolved mysteries.

No doubt however, much nodding of heads and clapping of hands in approval will be happening in Mail readers households when the comments are read.
Krystal n chips is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 06:47
  #533 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Simply Towers.
Posts: 3
I think number 2 just about covers it.

Definition of ?invasion? | Collins English Dictionary
Simplythebeast is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 07:15
  #534 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Luberon
Age: 68
Posts: 912
I suffered an intrusion this morning.

KnCs posts started appearing in their entirety despite me believing he was on my ignore list.

For some reason I had been logged out and a quick reset warded off any further assault on the borders of sanity.

sitigeltfel is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 07:44
  #535 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hong Kong SAR
Age: 76
Posts: 292
siti

Was it an intrusion, an invasion or simply a migration?

CISTRS is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 08:12
  #536 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 10,594
Even perhaps an incursion?
ORAC is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 08:21
  #537 (permalink)  
short flights long nights
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 3,071
I just got sent this.

“Half an hour ago on the border between Italy and Austria I saw with my own eyes a great many immigrants …
With all solidarity with people in difficult circumstances I have to say that what I saw arouses horror … This huge mass of people – sorry, that I’ll write this – but these are absolute savages … Vulgar, throwing bottles, shouting loudly “We want to Germany!” – and is Germany a paradise now?
I saw how they surrounded a car of an elderly Italian woman, pulled her by her hair out of the car and wanted to drive away in the car. They tried to overturn the bus in I travelled myself with a group of others. They were throwing faeces at us, banging on the doors to force the driver to open them, spat at the windscreen … I ask for what purpose? How is this savagery to assimilate in Germany?
I felt for a moment like in a war … I really feel sorry for these people, but if they reached Poland – I do not think that they would get any understanding from us … We were waiting three hours at the border which ultimately could not cross.
Our whole group was transported back to Italy in a police-cordon. The bus is damaged, covered with faeces, scratched, with broken windows. And this is supposed to be an idea for demographics? These big powerful hordes of savages?
Among them there were virtually no women, no children—the vast majority were aggressive young men … Just yesterday, while reading about them on all the websites I subconsciously felt compassion, worried about their fate but today after what I saw I am just afraid and yet I am happy that they did not choose our country as their destination. We Poles are simply not ready to accept these people – neither culturally nor financially.
I do not know if anyone is ready. To the EU a pathology is marching which we had not yet a chance to ever see, and I am sorry if anyone gets offended by his entry …
I can add that cars arrived with humanitarian aid – mainly food and water and they were just overturning those cars …
Through megaphones the Austrians announced that there is permission for them to cross the border—they wanted to register them and let them go on—but they did not understand these messages. They did not understand anything.
And this was the greatest horror … For among those few thousand people nobody understood Italian or English, or German, or Russian, or Spanish … What mattered was fist law… They fought for permission to move on and they had this permission— but did not realize that they had it!
They opened the luggage hatches of a French bus—and everything that was inside was stolen within short time, some things left lying on the ground …
Never in my short life had I an opportunity to see such scenes and I feel that this is just the beginning.”
trash-06

This is from a Polish Travel writer that was on the Austrian Border on September 5th.
SOPS is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 08:36
  #538 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Australia
Posts: 543
Krystal, I admire your charitable attitude towards these unfortunate people.

A couple of pages back, (post #525), 410 posted a link that might be of interest to you.

Yvette Cooper's pledge to take in migrants is proof emotion has replaced intelligence | Daily Mail Online

Tell me, would you be comfortable personalising the admirable feelings you suggest here by doing what Ms Cooper has promised to do?

Not far removed from that question, how will you react if/when the first of these newcomers decide that the housing already occupied by native-born Germans (or Britons) is far more suitable for their needs than the housing that the German or British taxpayer provides for them and just moves in?

Don't tell me that that's unlikely to occur, for it's the logical conclusion for people who are demanding to be allowed to cross national borders and receive welfare from countries of which they are not citizens because it is their "human right".
MTOW is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 08:42
  #539 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: eastcoastoz
Age: 72
Posts: 1,701
Isn't it wonderful that we have someone like KnC to set us deluded souls on the right path?

I'm so thankful for having it pointed out that I "do not have a basic understanding of the English language".
I'll be happy to be assigned extra homework to remedy that.

I'm afraid that his own grasp of the language is such that that he is unable to determine the difference between the words 'exodus' and influx.
Or 'invasion' if you prefer, for that's what it is, to be frank.

So, KnC, I'm sure I've a spare dictionary or two lying around somewhere - also a thesaurus, if you know what that is. I'll send them to you, FREE.
You're obviously needy - In more ways than one.

I've also had some difficulty perceiving the mass influx of the "women, children, the elderly and those impaired".
Therefore, it seems I also need glasses or some guidance on which media to monitor.

Looking forward to further posts from KnC to set me on the road to wisdom and enlightenment. Oh, and of course, the proper use of English.
.

Last edited by Stanwell; 19th Sep 2015 at 09:15.
Stanwell is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2015, 08:58
  #540 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 10,594
The western route through the Spanish african enclaves....

ORAC is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.