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US Marines thwart terrorist attack on French train.

Old 22nd Aug 2015, 18:56
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Merci les gars. Merci.
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Old 22nd Aug 2015, 20:25
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There will be many, including some here, who will blame the US for creating the atmosphere that leads these type of events.
To be sure, the Mess O' Potamia was 'enhanced' by a certain US president, on the other hand...

If we look at our shared history, the origins of said "atmosphere" was a bit of a team effort between the British, the US, and our fromage eating friends, the French, with later involvement of Germany.

Fast forward nearly a century, and that same gang of four refuse trade and diplomatic relations with nations that savagely violate human rights of their masses, unless of course, said nations have quantities of petroleum for sale at a good price.

Back to the bravery on rails - nicely done!
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Old 22nd Aug 2015, 20:44
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A heartfelt thank-you to those four men whose immediate reaction prevented yet another massacre. I would like to think that most of us, faced with a similar danger, would also act as selflessly. The knowledge that aside from the police, there will always be those amongst the innocent bystanders willing to take killers on should be one more - small perhaps but there - deterrent.

The saddest aspect is that increasingly, wherever we travel, we need to be alert to threats.
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Old 22nd Aug 2015, 21:19
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I would hope that, at the least, those guys got their train fare refunded. Plus a free First Class pass for life on Dutch, Belgian and French Railways.

Of course, it is a BIT sad that modern trains don't have doors that open inwards so such scrotes could have an "unfortunate" accident......on to the track going the other way.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 02:27
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What do you do in such a situation? You are unarmed on a speeding train with no where to go. You have two choices - fight or whimper.


[BYour advantages - numbers, starting immediately (don't give them time to think - they are not very bright) and courage. [/B]
[BGet your loved ones down.[/B]
B]Yell to fellow passengers to attack and don't wait - rush - attack.[/B]
BYou can kill a terrorist(s) with blows, turning their weapons on them, thumbs in eyes, chop to the throat, choking, kicking, by sitting on chest and asphyxiating, slamming head into floor or seat, use pens, pencils, rolled up magazines, laptops etc as weapons, I'm sure you all can think of others.[/B]

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Point is to do something and fast. Overwhelm him/them. Some may die but that would happen anyway.

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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 03:20
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I made a comment that was moderated about the number arriving.

I'm just wondering what it is going to take for the ' authorities' to actually fight back with force? How mant will the bearded whack jobs have to kill, until some finally says...enough is enough?
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 09:51
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vee tail one, SOPS et al, your plans to curtail immigration would have made not one jot of difference to Fusilier Rigby, whose murderers were English born, and to the best of my knowledge had never lived anywhere else. I think its a fact that some of the most radical Islamists in this country (note the word, it has a different meaning to Muslims) are home grown. The teenagers that are going to Syria to join ISIS are from Bradford, Leicester and Luton, talk with local accents and are second or even third generation Brits.

Close all the mosques? Great move if you want to radicalise a few thousand more!
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 10:50
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Ttn, stop talking sense. It has no place on JB..
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 11:10
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Reports coming in of 22 boats in trouble. 2000 rescued by the Italian Navy. If it is not an invasion of Europe, what is it?

The face of Europe will be changed forever.

( and I note, even Italian politicians are now saying that they are being invaded)
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 11:21
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By far the most interesting aspect of this thread is the deletion of posts, presumably by the moderators. What were the sins of the posts now gone?

Isn't this Jetblast?
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 11:26
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It would seem the first person to go for the terrorist was a French-American banker. He took the bullet before the gun jammed and gave the others behind the chance to pile in. He is the casualty with the wound that they then worked to save....

A 28-year-old French-American banker was injured in the attack on Friday.

Yesterday, Interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve said that it was in fact a French person who intervened first before the Americans piled in. His identity is not yet known, but he suffered a bullet wound to the chest and was helicoptered to hospital in Lille.

He remains hospitalized in intensive care today in "serious but stable" condition, and his life is not danger, according to Patrick Goldstein, head of the emergency service at CHRU Lille hospital. "There is strictly no change from yesterday. His condition is perfectly stable and there's no surgical procedure planned," Goldstein said on French television BFM, adding that the victim "is an exceptional person with great calm."...............
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 11:51
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav View Post
vee tail one, SOPS et al, your plans to curtail immigration would have made not one jot of difference to Fusilier Rigby, whose murderers were English born, and to the best of my knowledge had never lived anywhere else. I think its a fact that some of the most radical Islamists in this country (note the word, it has a different meaning to Muslims) are home grown. The teenagers that are going to Syria to join ISIS are from Bradford, Leicester and Luton, talk with local accents and are second or even third generation Brits.

Close all the mosques? Great move if you want to radicalise a few thousand more!
TTN the Islamic threat has evolved from a can of worms to a cauldron of snakes. We can each pull out an individual worm/snake and castigate or defend as we see fit. But surely by now we should be able to agree on the cause?

IMO the primary cause is mass immigration of people whose religion, culture, ways of life, and ways of thinking are incompatible with our own western ways.

The question that should be asked is why are second and third generation Muslims the most dangerous and the most radicalised?

The answer to that question is blindingly obvious: Muslim immigrants, particularly those originating from Pakistan and Africa mostly do not integrate but live in ghettos within the inner cities. The children of these immigrants go to faith schools where they are taught to an Islamic curriculum. This continues in the Mosques where the kids are exposed to Islamic ideas and actions, all reinforced by the actual words of the Quran and the other Muslim holy books.

These kids may have been born here but their mind-set and their way of thinking, is thousands of miles and hundreds of centuries away from ours.

I say again: Mass immigration of Muslims is the primary problem. We have had no murder and terrorism problems with Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Atheists, and assorted Christians ...

IMO we must find ways to reduce/remove the numbers of practicing Muslims in our country if we are ever to be able to live without fear of terrorism and death.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 13:17
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If Obama can't get political capital from this, see how the men will eventually be reprimanded with interfering with foreign citizens on foreign soil.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 18:49
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Can't be US Marines as the guy is still alive................rather than having been chucked out the window at 200 Kph.

Mind you he will be providing lots of intel for a considerable period of time.

French police have never been known to worry about rights when it suits them.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 19:04
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Originally Posted by 410 View Post
By far the most interesting aspect of this thread is the deletion of posts, presumably by the moderators. What were the sins of the posts now gone?

Isn't this Jetblast?
Seems to be au courante, 410. Going on in the joke thread also. Evidently a sense of humor is forbidden even there.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 19:34
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IMO we must find ways to reduce/remove the numbers of practicing Muslims in our country if we are ever to be able to live without fear of terrorism and death.
Absolutely right Vee tail, because let's face it, we never had terrorism or fear before all these Muslims arrived. No bombings, no mass murders, no terror alerts....
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 20:35
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Mr Chips, don't forget we did have IRA bombings here on the UK mainland.


My hat goes off to the bravery of those on that train and hope the terrorist slowly rots in jail.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 20:59
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hiflymk3 please be assured I am very aware of that and was being sarcastic...
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 21:01
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Mind you he will be providing lots of intel for a considerable period of time.
Just watching the morning news on the TV.

Apparently the suspect is very bemused that everyone thinks it was an attempted terrorist attack. A misunderstanding and he only intended to rob the train.

He says he only found the weapons and he wanted to shoot the window out of the train to aid his escape.

I have to give him this he's quick. The huggy fluffy lawyers may get hold of it and then see what happens.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 23:40
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It is going to get worse, a lot worse. And I note Germany, the self appointed rulers of Europe, are not trying to work out how to stop it, but calling on every member state to take more ' migrants' in.

The Italians are correct, the 'soul' of Europe is being changed forever.

Europe migrant crisis: Surge through Macedonia, Serbia as Italy takes thousands aboard at sea - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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