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Old 28th Jun 2015, 17:29
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Originally Posted by con-pilot View Post
Well I don't know, ever hear a BAC-111 takeoff on a calm, cold morning? Now that will shake your fillings lose.

For a while I lived close to Luton Airport at a similar altitude (Crawley Green Road) and the BAC111s really did make you sit up in bed every time they took off.

(I was usually out of Luton - or at least down low and shrouded from the runways - whenever I wasn't in bed.)
Originally Posted by Loose rivets
Looking back, it's astonishing to think an airline could just set up in somewhere like Luton and make the noise those 1-11s did. I sometimes stayed with S-I-L not a mile from the end of the runway. Powder used to spill from widening cracks as they took off.
Vauxhall workers turned up at the airport and explained why this noise was going to stop. I think the explanation involved the items they were carrying.
The night ban came soon after that and when I went back to LGW, the silence on the night airwaves was astonishing.
The (apparently) loudest take-offs were in the very early hours (3am?).
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Old 28th Jun 2015, 17:29
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The sonic boom after a fastjet passes overhead turns everyone into a little kid, mouth agape, "WOW!"

It's all been downhill since the turbofans got popular, turbojets should be mandatory on airliners, and each type should have a different number of engines! In 15 years aesthetically there'll be 2 different aircraft in major airports, the Boeing 73/7/87 and the A32/3/50, boo.
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Old 28th Jun 2015, 21:05
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turbojets should be mandatory on airliners
They'd certainly be faster. None of this dawdling around at M0.78. You never know, they might even be supersonic.
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Old 29th Jun 2015, 18:11
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The old Convair Coronado was not exactly part of the stealth inventory
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Old 29th Jun 2015, 18:21
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con wrote:

For overall noise, the B-36.
No. For overall noise there is nothing more brain-splitting then sitting in the back of a C-130 during rotation.
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Old 29th Jun 2015, 18:49
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Except perhaps the four reheated RR Olympus of Concorde?
Ah yes heard that once as one took off from LHR

Sadly after this year neither will be heard again
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Old 29th Jun 2015, 22:57
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Pfft - have you not heard the Roar of the Continental A-65-8?
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Old 29th Jun 2015, 23:41
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Originally Posted by west lakes View Post
Ah yes heard that once as one took off from LHR

Sadly after this year neither will be heard again
I am fortunate to have lived long enough to have heard both the Concorde and the B-58 takeoff with me at roughly the same distance*, by far the B-58 was nosier.

* With the B-58 I was standing about a quarter mile away and with the Concorde I was in the cockpit of a 727 in the left (facing seat) seat with the DV window open and was actually closer to the Concorde than I was to the B-58.

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Old 30th Jun 2015, 06:46
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No. For overall noise there is nothing more brain-splitting then sitting in the back of a C-130 during rotation.
I think I can agree on that one. I once sat in the rear of a C130 in a series of sectors from Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota to RAF Marham in the UK via Winnipeg, Goose bay and Keflavik. My ears were still ringing a month later. It was the sheer relentlessness of it.
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Old 30th Jun 2015, 07:08
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Vulcan, low pass at speed over Milford Sound airstrip.

I found a photo of the day...


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Old 30th Jun 2015, 08:04
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What do I not know?

Pah
A double reheat run on the de tuner and being under the engines on slam checks.......
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Old 30th Jun 2015, 09:55
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Cornish, yes I know what you mean, at Khamis Mushayt our nearest neighbours were hundred's of miles away, so no de tuner, aimed the back end into the empty quarter, shackled the nose leg down and that was pretty much it, being under the back end when it went into reheat drove all the breath from your body. Running without a detuner at night was pretty spectacular.
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Old 30th Jun 2015, 14:12
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From a spectator-only point of view, the loudest and rattliest (is that a word?) I have come across is the B-1. I have not felt the earth shake often at aircraft, but my gosh, it certainly does when that beastie gets air under the wheels.
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Old 30th Jun 2015, 18:50
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Pound for pound, the A-6 was the loudest thing I've heard.
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Old 30th Jun 2015, 18:53
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Originally Posted by Martin the Martian View Post
From a spectator-only point of view, the loudest and rattliest (is that a word?) I have come across
Wrong thread?
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Old 30th Jun 2015, 22:40
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Back in the early 90s I launched 9 BAC 111s in less than 8 minutes. So many noise complaints and Stansted went into LVPs!

The last pilot thanked me for letting him come to the 111 reunion.
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Old 1st Jul 2015, 00:07
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Hello Control "My thread has been hijacked!"

Don't worry we won't be seeing an "escort" alongside shortly.
(Shame really some of those girls are really intelligent... so I hear)

On the noise, I never said I didn't like it. I loved it.
I have experienced, Concorde, Vulcan, DC-8-63 from underneath at the end of a runway. But the best of all was a Backfire at Farnborough.

Anyhoo. Back to the topic - someone says they don't work.
"My arse"
How could a a company that has built shed loads of airliners, not tell if it works or not?

Now, either address the topic or I will tell you Mum you are misbehaving.
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Old 1st Jul 2015, 01:38
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Originally Posted by Wingswinger View Post
They'd certainly be faster. None of this dawdling around at M0.78. You never know, they might even be supersonic.
Bring back the Trident (filed cruising speeds in excess of 500kt TAS), lovely noise of 3 x Speys plus (in the 3C) a booster engine.
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