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Originally Posted by MarkerInbound
You have the gist of it. The US House of Representatives is charged with initiating spending and tax legislation. They have to get the Senate to agree and there can be back and forth revisions between the House and Senate. When a final version passes both the House and Senate it goes to the President for his signature. What is worrisome even to some Republicans is if Trump set the precedent of using emergency powers for a budget event it could return to haunt them when a Democrat is in the office. And lead to the scenario you note above.
Makes interesting battle seeing as each house has different electors to appease
Meanwhile the country as a whole goes tits up and an emergency is declared where only Trump makes the decisions
We deserve it as we allowed our news to be spoon fed to us without thinking that the news was a money-making source
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Bad news for Trump's "I own it" Federal Government shutdown:
To the Men and Women of the United States Coast Guard,
Today you will not be receiving your regularly scheduled mid-month paycheck. To the best of my knowledge, this marks the first time in our Nation’s history that servicemembers in a U.S. Armed Force have not been paid during a lapse in government appropriations.
Your senior leadership, including Secretary Nielsen, remains fully engaged and we will maintain a steady flow of communications to keep you updated on developments.
I recognize the anxiety and uncertainty this situation places on you and your family, and we are working closely with service organizations on your behalf. To this end, I am encouraged to share that Coast Guard Mutual Assistance (CGMA) has received a $15 million donation from USAA to support our people in need. In partnership with CGMA, the American Red Cross will assist in the distribution of these funds to our military and civilian workforce requiring assistance.
I am grateful for the outpouring of support across the country, particularly in local communities, for our men and women. It is a direct reflection of the American public’s sentiment towards their United States Coast Guard; they recognize the sacrifice that you and your family make in service to your country.
It is also not lost on me that our dedicated civilians are already adjusting to a missed paycheck—we are confronting this challenge together.
The strength of our Service has, and always will be, our people. You have proven time and again the ability to rise above adversity. Stay the course, stand the watch, and serve with pride. You are not, and will not, be forgotten.
Semper Paratus,
Admiral Karl L. Schultz Commandant
Today you will not be receiving your regularly scheduled mid-month paycheck. To the best of my knowledge, this marks the first time in our Nation’s history that servicemembers in a U.S. Armed Force have not been paid during a lapse in government appropriations.
Your senior leadership, including Secretary Nielsen, remains fully engaged and we will maintain a steady flow of communications to keep you updated on developments.
I recognize the anxiety and uncertainty this situation places on you and your family, and we are working closely with service organizations on your behalf. To this end, I am encouraged to share that Coast Guard Mutual Assistance (CGMA) has received a $15 million donation from USAA to support our people in need. In partnership with CGMA, the American Red Cross will assist in the distribution of these funds to our military and civilian workforce requiring assistance.
I am grateful for the outpouring of support across the country, particularly in local communities, for our men and women. It is a direct reflection of the American public’s sentiment towards their United States Coast Guard; they recognize the sacrifice that you and your family make in service to your country.
It is also not lost on me that our dedicated civilians are already adjusting to a missed paycheck—we are confronting this challenge together.
The strength of our Service has, and always will be, our people. You have proven time and again the ability to rise above adversity. Stay the course, stand the watch, and serve with pride. You are not, and will not, be forgotten.
Semper Paratus,
Admiral Karl L. Schultz Commandant
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[QUOTE][We deserve it as we allowed our news to be spoon fed to us without thinking /QUOTE]
More a massive lack of critical thinking.
And you don't deserve it.
And it really is time to stand up.
To trump you don't even have names. He only knows a few quasi-elite-type names. You are numbers, not even individual numbers, just blocks of numbers..
More a massive lack of critical thinking.
And you don't deserve it.
And it really is time to stand up.
To trump you don't even have names. He only knows a few quasi-elite-type names. You are numbers, not even individual numbers, just blocks of numbers..
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The Coast Guard getting Red Cross charity assistance? Vlad may die of laughter.
But for the conservatives, all worth it for the "judges....judges.....judges." Forgetting that judges are just human beings that, like the rest of us, put their robes on one arm at a time. They come and they go. They can be circumvented with careful law-writing (unless they go "activist" and start trying to re-write the laws themselves - a conservative no-no). A minor speed-bump in the progress of the nation into the 21st Century, compared to the coming will of the millennials.
But for the conservatives, all worth it for the "judges....judges.....judges." Forgetting that judges are just human beings that, like the rest of us, put their robes on one arm at a time. They come and they go. They can be circumvented with careful law-writing (unless they go "activist" and start trying to re-write the laws themselves - a conservative no-no). A minor speed-bump in the progress of the nation into the 21st Century, compared to the coming will of the millennials.
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full
The Coast Guard getting Red Cross charity assistance? Vlad may die of laughter.
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"Before taking the job as President Trump’s national security adviser, Bolton devoted a considerable portion of his time on the airways of Fox News and in the pages of the Wall Street Journal vocally advocating for regime change, guided perhaps by the stupendously naive belief that a Washington-imposed toppling of a government in Iran would be any more successful than it was in Baghdad, Tripoli, or Damascus." [Washington Examiner]
Or Vietnam, as a few of us will remember...
Mac :-(
Or Vietnam, as a few of us will remember...
Mac :-(
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WC,
Although I don't know the extent of "many times" your generosity is favorably noted. However there is a difference between "your barracks" being out of toilet paper, etc,, and the entire US Coast Guard being not paid. Maybe your former Marine Congressman could have helped to prevent this, but maybe not as he is having significant distracting personal monetary problems...
Vlad is laughing up his sleeve only recently, but not LOL with his directed misinformation provided to get Trump elected and his misinformation provided during the Brexit situation in Britain. Vlad doesn't want to blow his cover when he says he had nothing to do with either. The world political scene is different than Trump's NYC dealings with the Mafia on the inflated cost of delivered concrete for his buildings, a deal not mentioned in his infamous book, but Trump has yet to figure out Washington DC and international dealing are unique.
I recall many times during the Clinton administration taking money out of my own pocket when one of my NCOs came to me and said the barracks was out of cleaning supplies, toilet paper, etc. If Vlad is laughing, he’s been laughing for quite some number of years.
Vlad is laughing up his sleeve only recently, but not LOL with his directed misinformation provided to get Trump elected and his misinformation provided during the Brexit situation in Britain. Vlad doesn't want to blow his cover when he says he had nothing to do with either. The world political scene is different than Trump's NYC dealings with the Mafia on the inflated cost of delivered concrete for his buildings, a deal not mentioned in his infamous book, but Trump has yet to figure out Washington DC and international dealing are unique.
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Coverup
MANJIB!!!!!
After the bombing that slaughtered four brave American heroes VP Pence gave a victory over ISIS speech praising the Trump/Putin order to prematurely withdraw US troops from Syria. This blatant coverup needs an immediate two year non-stop investigation with endless public hearings to assign blame to Trump and his administration regardless of any facts.
Benga....... Whoops I meant MANJIB!!!!!
The Sultan
After the bombing that slaughtered four brave American heroes VP Pence gave a victory over ISIS speech praising the Trump/Putin order to prematurely withdraw US troops from Syria. This blatant coverup needs an immediate two year non-stop investigation with endless public hearings to assign blame to Trump and his administration regardless of any facts.
Benga....... Whoops I meant MANJIB!!!!!
The Sultan
Pelosi Just Hit Trump Where It Hurts
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Originally Posted by Turbine D
WC,
Although I don't know the extent of "many times" your generosity is favorably noted. However there is a difference between "your barracks" being out of toilet paper, etc,, and the entire US Coast Guard being not paid. Maybe your former Marine Congressman could have helped to prevent this, but maybe not as he is having significant distracting personal monetary problems...
Vlad is laughing up his sleeve only recently, but not LOL with his directed misinformation provided to get Trump elected and his misinformation provided during the Brexit situation in Britain. Vlad doesn't want to blow his cover when he says he had nothing to do with either. The world political scene is different than Trump's NYC dealings with the Mafia on the inflated cost of delivered concrete for his buildings, a deal not mentioned in his infamous book, but Trump has yet to figure out Washington DC and international dealing are unique.
Although I don't know the extent of "many times" your generosity is favorably noted. However there is a difference between "your barracks" being out of toilet paper, etc,, and the entire US Coast Guard being not paid. Maybe your former Marine Congressman could have helped to prevent this, but maybe not as he is having significant distracting personal monetary problems...
Vlad is laughing up his sleeve only recently, but not LOL with his directed misinformation provided to get Trump elected and his misinformation provided during the Brexit situation in Britain. Vlad doesn't want to blow his cover when he says he had nothing to do with either. The world political scene is different than Trump's NYC dealings with the Mafia on the inflated cost of delivered concrete for his buildings, a deal not mentioned in his infamous book, but Trump has yet to figure out Washington DC and international dealing are unique.
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Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying
She's yanked the rug out from under Trump's State of the Union address. Kicking him away from his spot on national TV is a cruel blow for Trump
it aint over until the fat guy sings
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America's Mayor with a mob pinkie ring and bad lower teeth
Saw a clip of Mr. Giuliani's appearance on CNN. I understand that one must adopt a certain sartorial standard when one is representing one of New York's "five plus one" crime families (in other words the Trump family), but what is with the pinkie ring? What is with the false upper teeth and rotten lower ones? The latter is a particularly noteworthy affectation...
Typical organized crime defence. There was no crime. Oh, wait. There was but the boss did not know about it. Giuliani is a sad shadow of a human. What a doddering old fool.
Typical organized crime defence. There was no crime. Oh, wait. There was but the boss did not know about it. Giuliani is a sad shadow of a human. What a doddering old fool.
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Since we are all headed toward old age I almost never take a swipe at someone who is already in those ranks, but Guiliani is a piece of work. How anyone lets him near a microphone or camera is a wonder. I share that sentiment Mac in thinking that surely 45 could do better merely by opening the telephone book.
Perhaps Guiliani should replace his lower teeth with gold ones. That would give a bit of a look as if he were a rapper spending time in Las Vegas--nothing wrong at all with that and is the reason that he should entertain this look for himself. Add in another pinkie ring for the other hand and he would have it made!
Perhaps Guiliani should replace his lower teeth with gold ones. That would give a bit of a look as if he were a rapper spending time in Las Vegas--nothing wrong at all with that and is the reason that he should entertain this look for himself. Add in another pinkie ring for the other hand and he would have it made!
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife
"Giuliani is a sad shadow of a human. What a doddering old fool."
Sad. He sounds like he has senile dementia/Altzheimer's. Surely '45 can do better than that?
Mac
Sad. He sounds like he has senile dementia/Altzheimer's. Surely '45 can do better than that?
Mac
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This has come up several times; it is nothing new, but compare the way Trump spoke 20 or 30 years ago to the way he speaks now. Used to be, he was pretty nimble. Today he stumbles through word salads using the same old modifiers again and again, so that it's all "very, very ... " whatever.
There are words in his tweets such as "covfefe" and "hamberders," when we have to wonder what the man is trying to say and how he can get from "hamburgers" to that .... Those aren't even typos; they are just ... insane. The man seems to be lost, where back in his salad days in New York City, chatting with Howard Stern, he was the same low-life we know know, but a low-life who could at least make sense when he spoke.
There has been this phase that seems now to be ending, a phase when everyone sort of played along, just for starters, sort of placating Trump by not calling him on his blatant BS that started with the inauguration. It's been proof of conventional wisdom about putting up with a bully, that doing that just makes him go further. What started small, with silly stuff about the size of the crowd and how the sun was shining when really it was raining, stuff we chose mostly to ignore, has now swelled to monstrous size. Trump is now playing footsie with Putin and Kim Jong-un as if this were just another reality TV show, when we must tune in next week to see Trump given another rose by some tyrant he tells us, literally, that he has fallen in love with, or that they are the very best of friends, or whatever. Has he lost his freaking mind, doing this sort of stuff? Yeah, what is left of it, I think so. He's gone too far for even some Republicans to play along and pretend this stuff is normal.
There are words in his tweets such as "covfefe" and "hamberders," when we have to wonder what the man is trying to say and how he can get from "hamburgers" to that .... Those aren't even typos; they are just ... insane. The man seems to be lost, where back in his salad days in New York City, chatting with Howard Stern, he was the same low-life we know know, but a low-life who could at least make sense when he spoke.
There has been this phase that seems now to be ending, a phase when everyone sort of played along, just for starters, sort of placating Trump by not calling him on his blatant BS that started with the inauguration. It's been proof of conventional wisdom about putting up with a bully, that doing that just makes him go further. What started small, with silly stuff about the size of the crowd and how the sun was shining when really it was raining, stuff we chose mostly to ignore, has now swelled to monstrous size. Trump is now playing footsie with Putin and Kim Jong-un as if this were just another reality TV show, when we must tune in next week to see Trump given another rose by some tyrant he tells us, literally, that he has fallen in love with, or that they are the very best of friends, or whatever. Has he lost his freaking mind, doing this sort of stuff? Yeah, what is left of it, I think so. He's gone too far for even some Republicans to play along and pretend this stuff is normal.
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Still so sad
Sad to see Chuks waxing lyrical on his fave person.
Seems to have lost his Bungy Hempy though
Chuk's puerile attempt at Australiana sure made me smile. Perhaps I'll have my tribal elder point the bone at you, don't know if it will work over long distance.
On the shut down, can someone explain how long it can last and what mechanism is in place to circumvent it??
Seems to have lost his Bungy Hempy though
Chuk's puerile attempt at Australiana sure made me smile. Perhaps I'll have my tribal elder point the bone at you, don't know if it will work over long distance.
On the shut down, can someone explain how long it can last and what mechanism is in place to circumvent it??
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dean
Sad to see Chuks waxing lyrical on his fave person.
Seems to have lost his Bungy Hempy though
Chuk's puerile attempt at Australiana sure made me smile. Perhaps I'll have my tribal elder point the bone at you, don't know if it will work over long distance.
On the shut down, can someone explain how long it can last and what mechanism is in place to circumvent it??
Seems to have lost his Bungy Hempy though
Chuk's puerile attempt at Australiana sure made me smile. Perhaps I'll have my tribal elder point the bone at you, don't know if it will work over long distance.
On the shut down, can someone explain how long it can last and what mechanism is in place to circumvent it??
