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Old 27th Oct 2018, 16:58
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Reports of up to 8 fatalities following an attack on a Synagogue in Pittsburgh this morning. The shooter is in custody, 3 LEO's wounded. This shi*t is so common now it hardly rates as news.
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 17:08
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You wish!

"Chuks, I suspect that we do indeed have something in common, our interest in female anatomy.

However, mine is licensed. Yours is just from looking at porn."

Not quite, Fallout Boy. I was in attendance for the birth of Child Two, all of that, which included a rather close look at the female anatomy, all of that. God, but I needed that!

The best part was in the middle, as Child Two was being a bit awkward about his encounter with the outside world. Madame took a break from her labor on a big, green ball, when mine was a support role, leaning over so that she could link her hands behind my neck.

As I gazed into her eyes I remembered where I had last seen that very expression, but that was on a raccoon trapped in a dumpster in Chevy Chase. Yes, keeping the romance alive in a marriage by attending a birth, just the way to do that ....

Then she spoke, saying to me, "Don't go anywhere." What, out the door of the hospital and off down the street I was to go, dragging a half-naked woman perched on a big green ball, at three in the morning?

Nah, Ob-Gyn is best left to the professionals, I think. You can have it, OB.

Back to Topic One, OB: Given that your Orange Idol is on record as never even having changed a diaper, how close do you suppose he ever got to one of his wives doing that sort of messy thing? "I'll be at the casino/office/golf course. Keith can run you to the hospital. Call me later to say whether it's a girl or a boy, okay? Love you, Thing One/Two/Three [depending], and Byeee."

I guessed right about who was sending the bombs, and now I shall guess again, that Trump is exactly the sort of fellow who would pass out cold confronted with the sight of a human female giving birth. He likes grabbin' and jabbin' that thang, but when it comes down to serious business he doesn't want to know.

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Old 27th Oct 2018, 17:18
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Chuks, I suspect that we do indeed have something in common, our interest in female anatomy.

However, mine is licensed. Yours is just from looking at porn.
Instead of embarrassing yourself with this, you could have just said 'sorry Chuks, I see I was wrong, thanks for the correction'.

How refreshing that would be! Someone simply acknowledging when they are wrong rather than resorting to puerile insults when the argument is lost. The sign of a far bigger person too.
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 17:30
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Jeez, Neila83, lighten up for once. Do you really think an internet chat-exchange is worthy of such constant seriousness?

Even Chuks doesn’t!
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 18:02
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I took OB's as a pretty good riposte, nothing more, with no offense taken.

We were on tour this summer when we happened upon the Musée Courbet in Ornans, France, so that we paid it a visit.

Courbet is best known to the general public for his painting "The Origin of the World." WARNING: NSFW! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Origine_du_monde

The original is in Paris, in the Musée d'Orsay, so that the Musée Courbet only has a reproduction, and it is concealed under a small curtain that the viewer, having been warned beforehand, has to lift to view. Hot stuff!

God help us all if Vice President Pence is ever on an official visit to Ornans, when that museum is a real source of civic pride and thus something he would be sure to visit. "Nice pictures you got here, all these landscapes, but what is under this little curtain? Aaah! Burn it; burn it with fire! Get thee behind me, Satan!"

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Old 27th Oct 2018, 20:10
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Eight people killed in Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue shooting

At least eight people have been killed after a gunman opened fire inside a synagogue in Pittsburgh today.

Shabbat morning services had been under way at the Tree of Life synagogue, in the city’s Squirrel Hill neighbourhood, for just 30 minutes when the first reports of gunfire emerged. Police descended on the synagogue and urged residents to stay in their homes. The gunman surrendered to armed police. Three officers were shot in the synagogue and at least 12 people were shot in total.......

Pennsylvania state police said the shooter yelled antisemitic “slogans” and reportedly had an automatic AR-15 rifle as well as two handguns. “All Jews need to die,” the suspect is reported as having told police......

Squirrel Hill is an intensely Jewish neighbourhood, home to almost half of the city’s Jewish population.

The Tree of Life is a conservative synagogue, which means that it adheres to many religious traditions but also introduces more modern and egalitarian aspects of worship. Saturday services are the busiest time of the week, when families with children come together for the Sabbath. The synagogue had no formal security procedures........



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Old 27th Oct 2018, 21:54
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Eight people killed in Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue shooting
We're yet to be told if this was terrorism or 'lone-wolf'. I suspect it won't be long before they've ascertained the suspects skintone and ideological preferences, then we'll know the classification. I see Trump has already put all the right precautions in place, ensuring something like this can not happen again: More guns, obviously.
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 22:12
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Already public - white, racist, lone wolf.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pittsbu...ow-2018-10-27/
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 22:18
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ORAC,

I was born and raised in Pittsburgh and my Dad went to a high school not far from the synagogue where the shooting took place. He was only but a handful of Gentiles in his senior class of over a hundred students. He had many Jewish friends in Squirrel Hill and when I was young he would take me shopping on Sunday morning to Squirrel Hill to buy clothing and shoes in one of the many shops where he knew the owners and they knew him. The streets were always jam packed with cars and people on Sunday mornings.

When I was 16 and got my drivers learning permit, you can guess where he took me to practice driving, Squirrel Hill. He said if I could drive well in Squirrel Hill on a Sunday morning, I could drive well anytime anywhere. It was all about defensive driving, anticipating and always paying attention. These are fond memories of the good times years ago rather than the sad event of this morning in Squirrel Hill.

May all that were affected by this senseless tragedy this morning be comforted by the community, friends and family.
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 22:30
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ORAC,

Charlottesville showed these white supremacists are not lone wolfs, but part of a pathetic Nazi ideology which Trump panders too in every rally as he spews his message of hate.
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 23:06
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Nevertheless - in this case - the perp appears to have also considered Trump yet another "Globalist," and ranted against him, too.

May have something to do with Trump's in-laws and appointees who happen to be Jewish, or just typical InfoWars batshite brain damage. Once one lets loose of observable reality, one is in free-fall.
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Old 27th Oct 2018, 23:29
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There are none so blind as those who will not see

I normally stay 1000 miles (make that nautical miles) from the U.S. firearms discussion because of the vehement dangers involved. I do wonder though how if four trained and equipped officers of the local constabulary were laid low by the gunman in today's Pittsburgh shooting, just what kind of protection force Mr. Trump envisions must be in place to prevent such occurrences in public places. Just how heavily "securitized" must every aspect of life be? One would need more than a single watchman.

Chuks, would the canvas in question be viewable by Mr. Pence if Mrs Pence were with him? Would she be able to fend off the allures that the evil one might try to cast on her betrothed? Or would no amount of get thee behind Satan suffice?
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Old 28th Oct 2018, 07:44
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O, the huge manatee!

Another day, another gun atrocity. Okay, it was Jews at worship this time, instead of the usual Christians, and instead of the most-usual schoolchildren at their lessons, but otherwise, what is new? Seriously, is there anything original to say about this?

Trump says we need more guns ... to protect ourselves against gun violence. Cue fit of moral outrage now! Zzzz ....

The notion of Mike and "Mother" Pence being confronted by a rude piece of French art ... that's good fun, I think. Épater le bourgeois!

The real Mike Pence, though, can't be as prudish as he presents himself to be. On the other hand, the Pence taste in art? That Courbet would not rouse him one little bit, I fear. Show him a sad kitty with big eyes; that would stir his emotions. For Trump? Dogs playing poker.
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Old 28th Oct 2018, 10:17
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Forrest Trump says that we now should be carrying guns into the church or synagogue to protect ourselves.

Wonder what his momma would'a said.
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Old 28th Oct 2018, 18:31
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Forrest Trump says that we now should be carrying guns into the church or synagogue to protect ourselves.

Wonder what his momma would'a said.
Unfortunately the shootings happened before Trump and will continue after, your point?

Without trying to sound too callous, where is your outrage at the number of shootings and deaths in the inner cities, each and every day, by kids, of kids, or does that not fit your narrative?
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Old 28th Oct 2018, 19:55
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where is your outrage at the number of shootings and deaths in the inner cities
Deflection and "whataboutism" - the first and last refuge of the scoundrel.

But out of curiosity - what have you, personally, done to alleviate the many horrors of life in the inner city? Or are you another willing participant in the "malign neglect" of those places? In many ways beyond the crimes of violence (economic development, exclusion, vote suppression)? A booming "ghetto" economy (thus excluding the drug trade, an offshoot of poverty) would do a lot to reduce the violence.

Murder is always evil, but there is a difference between "an extension of business competition by other means" or perhaps "kill or be killed," on a retail basis (1-4 at a time), and wholesale targeting a place of worship based on religion or ethnicity and killing "as many as possible." Newsworthiness goes up as the square of the number of victims, and at an even higher rate if the crime smacks of the "crimes against humanity" of the 1940s.

I expect, if one explored Bowers' extended family, one or more of his relatives was killed, maimed-for-life or injured fighting against the philosphy he now (allegedly) espouses and kills for himself. It is sad that that philosophy, crushed so effectively then, has re-emerged, zombie-like, into the fringe (and not-so-fringe) politics of today.

I stand foursquare for the First Amendment, free speech, and free thought. But when it comes to the handful of philosophies that American warriors have actually died to defeat, sometimes I wonder - just wonder - if there should not be exceptions for those specific "ideas" here at home. Probably better historical education of our kids would be the preferable solution, however.

It does seem the current shocking event has cracked even Trump's "thought-wall." Although we'll have to wait and see if that is just "Teleprompter Trump" or whether it actually extends to "Twitter/Rally Trump."
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Old 28th Oct 2018, 20:13
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
Forrest Trump says that we now should be carrying guns into the church or synagogue to protect ourselves.

Wonder what his momma would'a said.
Shame on you AC to insult the good name of one of the most gentle and kind human beings to have entered our lives. Not to mention no draft dodger, but Medal of Hounour winner. And, if the previous isn’t enough, an honest and successful businessman to boot.

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Old 28th Oct 2018, 21:24
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Old 28th Oct 2018, 22:35
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Dutystude, the reference to Forrest was that of a bumbling, very-low intelligence person who happens to become successful through pure luck.

Without trying to sound too callous, where is your outrage at the number of shootings and deaths in the inner cities, each and every day, by kids, of kids, or does that not fit your narrative?
Narrative?? Don't have no narrative here, sweetie. The US penchant for having guns and killing people in large numbers is not the subject here, despite being a horrendous mental aberration of a nation. I am not outraged at your shootings. I am sad. Leaping to your feet and blabbering about some amendment that allows you to carry guns being an excuse to shoot classrooms full of schoolkids, people at open-air concerts, people in their religious services, or just anybody who gets you angry and you have a gun handy, is solely an american lifestyle.
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Old 28th Oct 2018, 23:17
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“Deflection and "whataboutism" - the first and last refuge of the scoundrel.

But out of curiosity - what have you, personally, done to alleviate the many horrors of life in the inner city? Or are you another willing participant in the "malign neglect" of those places? In many ways beyond the crimes of violence (economic development, exclusion, vote suppression)? A booming "ghetto" economy (thus excluding the drug trade, an offshoot of poverty) would do a lot to reduce the violence”.

I do not find the number of deaths of inner city kids, by kids the last refuge of a scoundrel, especially since the numbers dwarf the sad and unfortunate number of “mass murder” events every, single, year.
1 - 4 deaths you count as “commercial”, how sad. Gangs control multiple city blocks, whole areas of towns and cities, controlling the day to day lives of thousands of innocent people.

You ask what I have “personally” done, my first inclination is to say none of your damn business, however I will tell you this, some 20 years ago while on TDY I met and made friends with some good folks that happened to live on the SE fringe of Watts. Over food and beers as we got to know each other, details of lives emerged. Honestly I had a hard time believing that in the land of milk and honey such violence and lawlessness could exist.
Well I got to see first hand, a field trip arranged by them into one of the nicer areas of Watts. Never been so scared in my life, from a distance saw a child shot, the shooter did it to prove himself, at15 years of age, no remorse, just another day.
i spent the next year or so contacting, talking face to face with, local/state politicians, guess what, they are just like you, me and everyone else, yes we know, the police are doing all they can, you do know nobody comes forward to identify anyone, what can we do, appropriate hand wringing.
My friends told me it would be a waste of time, stupid me didn’t believe them, surely they would listen to a white guy.

Watching a child shoot another child without so much as a single thought left a lasting impression on me, we, all of us, from the top to the bottom, condemn generations of children to grow up afraid for their lives.
Adults are adults, children do not get to pick their parents.

Hope I didn’t disappoint you too much, but then I don’t care what you think.
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