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Old 26th Apr 2018, 20:13
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Originally Posted by Hempy View Post
unhinged
ʌnˈhɪn(d)ʒd
adjective
  1. mentally unbalanced; deranged.

Iím concerned about you Hempy, how long since you had a hearing test?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 20:16
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Iím concerned about you Hempy, how long since you had a hearing test?
Probably more up your street Hempy, Cosby was just found guilty. Just in case you didnít hear.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 20:51
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Originally Posted by fltlt View Post


Off thread a little, has anyone heard from VAP, I do hope he is ok.
Vapa has a history of leaving the scrum. After the election, he went awol for a number of months, I suspect heíll be back.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 21:15
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post


Vapa has a history of leaving the scrum. After the election, he went awol for a number of months, I suspect heíll be back.
Thank you WC, one always wonders when such a voracious character just disappears.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 03:54
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In a gesture that is sure to launch Hempy et al skyward, Kim Jong Un walked across the demarcation line holding hands with his South Korean counterpart today, a truly historic event.
IF indeed this leads to peace on the Korean Peninsula, note the IF, then Trump truly deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, irregardless of what anyone thinks of him.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 06:09
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At last !

What a perfect date...13th July !

The only bit of bad timing is that Derby station is being re-modelled and rail services are "subject to cancellation without notice "....

No matter, where's a will there's a way and I look forward to joining the several hundred thousand others extending their "heartfelt sentiments " on the day.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 07:49
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I think I can see where Hempy was going with that. Virtually, the entire interview centered around Fake News, Surrounded by incompetents and traitors etc. I am not a shrink but his rant seemed to point very heavily toward paranoia. "I am great and doing well despite all those around me trying to get me".
So Trump should take the credit for North & South Korea getting together, plus the nuclear declaration from Kim Jong Un. I remember writing quite some time ago that I thought N. Korea would carry on with their nuclear programme until they felt it successful. They would then make a big song and dance, giving it up and scoring a diplomatic win. And they have done just that!
By the way, ftlt, there is no such word as "irregardless".
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 13:09
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
I think I can see where Hempy was going with that. Virtually, the entire interview centered around Fake News, Surrounded by incompetents and traitors etc. I am not a shrink but his rant seemed to point very heavily toward paranoia. "I am great and doing well despite all those around me trying to get me".
So Trump should take the credit for North & South Korea getting together, plus the nuclear declaration from Kim Jong Un. I remember writing quite some time ago that I thought N. Korea would carry on with their nuclear programme until they felt it successful. They would then make a big song and dance, giving it up and scoring a diplomatic win. And they have done just that!
By the way, ftlt, there is no such word as "irregardless".
Then I would suggest you drop a note to Tim Cook and have his elves fix their spell check
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 13:25
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
By the way, ftlt, there is no such word as "irregardless".

The dictionary thinks there is but apparently a lot of people make the same mistake as you.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

With regard to Korea its going to be great fun watching people try to claim that Trump doesnt deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for his contribution to peace in Korea - the same people who thought it was great that Obama got one for doing nothing....fun times ahead..
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 15:29
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Originally Posted by Highway1 View Post
The dictionary thinks there is but apparently a lot of people make the same mistake as you.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

With regard to Korea its going to be great fun watching people try to claim that Trump doesnt deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for his contribution to peace in Korea - the same people who thought it was great that Obama got one for doing nothing....fun times ahead..
Whatever one thinks of Trump, Democrat, Republican, Independent, Atheist, Alien, IF peace comes to the Korean Peninsula, everyone, repeat everyone should acknowledge and congratulate all parties involved, that includes the current President of the United States, whose leadership and stance enabled it.

I for one hope it is successful, for the people of North Korea primarily, and the lessening of tensions in that neck of the woods.
However, as we are all aware it still could go south in a hurry, time will tell.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 15:31
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I don't care what merriam webster says. Think about it: "ir" is a prefix meaning "not" or "the opposite of". So, if regardless means having no regard, then irregardless would effectively be a double negative, meaning having regard. And I am in no doubt this was not the intent behind the use of the word. It may be a word used by those less well educated but not by those with any idea of the English language. Somewhere along the lines of "I ain't got no idea"!
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 15:51
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
I think I can see where Hempy was going with that. Virtually, the entire interview centered around Fake News, Surrounded by incompetents and traitors etc. I am not a shrink but his rant seemed to point very heavily toward paranoia. "I am great and doing well despite all those around me trying to get me".
I might be inclined to agree with your thumbnail diagnosis, however nearly all of the swamp, much of the middle and upper reached of govt, large segments of the HR and a significant slice of the Senate really are out to get him. I don't think his concern for those who are working hard to destroy him is misplaced. The left leaning media careens from one anti-Trump rant to the next. Doesn't matter that none of them pan out, they just keep up the rant. I posted briefly about the economic numbers recently. In any other admin, the CNN and Money pages would be gushing with praise. But - because he's Trump, there is no mention of the policy effects on our national wealth. So, no - I don't see any paranoia.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 17:08
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GF,
Well, you did read the article, MAYBE you learned something, too.
Not, MAYBE, I did learn something just reading the title. I learned one way you can easily convert real news to fake new, just leave one word out...
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 03:55
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
I don't care what merriam webster says. Think about it: "ir" is a prefix meaning "not" or "the opposite of". So, if regardless means having no regard, then irregardless would effectively be a double negative, meaning having regard. And I am in no doubt this was not the intent behind the use of the word. It may be a word used by those less well educated but not by those with any idea of the English language. Somewhere along the lines of "I ain't got no idea"!
'Irregardless' is a real word ? you're just using it wrong - Business Insider
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 06:30
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That's an interesting point ....

Words such as "irregardless" do exist, of course. Regardless/irregardless is a pairing like flammable/inflammable, where both words mean the same but one should mean the opposite, as with reasonable/unreasonable and permeable/impermeable. (I bet Trump could sell one of his fans a raincoat with his fake Trump coat of arms, pinched and re-worked without permission of the rightful owners, and his personal promise that it's guaranteed to be absolutely permeable to even heavy rain.)

Language is not whatever language tries to describe, while sometimes language turns out to just be ... words. "Covfefe" is a word we use now that probably came into existence because a sleepy and bored Donald Trump let his thumbs go out of control during one of his twitter sessions; it means just about anything you want it to mean because it's essentially meaningless. We saw Donald John Trump nail jelly to the ceiling, no idea how.

Another thing is that we use metaphor all the time, often without even understanding that it's not the reality we are trying to describe. Trump just enjoyed a stunning success with this unprecedented meeting between the North and South Korean leaders, or did he? What, Trump's success literally stunned us, made us lose consciousness? Come to that, was this success, or might it actually be failure, one more time that slippery Kim promises something but then goes back on it later?

The short-sighted Donald Trump, and his followers, are probably unaware of some recent events that showed how Kim does this with surprising success. (South Korea made a large investment in the Kaesong Industrial Region, for example, when Kim then pulled all its workers out and caused losses of close to a billion USD for South Korean companies operating there. It re-opened after that, but was later closed by South Korea as a political move, supposedly subject to its reopening. Basically, this large and costly project meant to achieve some sort of peaceful progress towards reconciliation died, mainly due to Kim.)

This interplay between North and South Korea makes me think of the way that Charlie Brown always runs up to kick the football that Lucy van Pelt always snatches away at the last second. It would be surprising if what Trump already claimed has happened, Kim agreeing to get rid of his nukes (not what he actually agreed to at all), does come to pass, but that is not what matters to Trump and his believers. What matters is crafting some metaphor about stunning success and putting that out there, regardless of what happens next. If bothersome people who want to cite reality and the exact meaning of words carp about this it just goes to widen that national divide between "them" and "us" for Trump and his deluded flock.

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Old 28th Apr 2018, 07:51
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This side up, irregardless.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 15:16
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If bothersome people who want to cite reality
i know reality isn’t popular amongst the left, but it really does exist and sometimes you need to be reminded of that. Be it a word in a dictionary or on a larger stage.

As to the Korean issue, there are at least two differences between now and past overtures, war and internal dissent. Just as many of you were afraid Trump would bring war to Korea, so was the Fat Wun. Modern era Nork leaders have acted without fear of retribution, evidenced by sinking a South Korean Navy ship, blowing up an airliner to spoil the olympics, sending hit teams south, etc. Now similar acts would be a tripwire for war. Second, the sanctions are cutting into chubby’s ability to keep the ruling class happy. The cult of personality only goes so far, a new Mercedes in the General’s driveway along with a fully stocked pantry is what keeps the waddling one in power.

With the challenges to his regime’s existence front and center, he has real reason to negotiate in earnest.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 18:33
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Boeing reports record profit for quarter. ConocoPhillips Q1 beat estimates, up nicely. MGM reports near record earnings and profit. Shell profit exceeds target handily. Visa card services going gangbusters. Durable goods orders up 2.6% in March after ~2% increase in Feb. Hard to find losers in the US economy these days. There's a few out there, but the overall picture of my 401k is pretty much all green(I'm heavily invested in stocks and risk based investments, no annuities or govt bonds).
I would agree that things look pretty good on the stock-market front at the moment. My words to you are don't count your chickens before they hatch, doubly important when playing today's securities game. No two economic downturns (recessions) are the same because of complex factors occurring at the given time. However, there are some factors that start the ball rolling.

You mention oil, both company profits are up and oil prices are increasing. Oil is a unique commodity as it affects so many things and when its price rises, the cost of everything goes up. When that happens, inflation accelerates. These two factors combined tend to reduce economic growth which in turn puts a lid on job creation and leads to higher unemployment. How the government deals with this will be interesting because of how we are positioned today. Interest rates are low still as well as unemployment, but wages haven't gone up to reflect these factors. So if inflation continues to increase, as I think it will, reducing the interest rate will result in stifling economic growth, less job creation opportunities and potentially a rise in the unemployment rate.

Couple all of the above with a US$ value that is declining world-wide, an unclear tariff situation, reduction in federal taxes both personal and corporate and a federal spending budget that well exceeds incoming revenue. Yes, Boeing is a winner at the moment, but will they be as jet fuel prices rise to the point that aircraft on order are either cancelled or postponed and the airlines have no choice but to pass the operating cost increases along to the customer?

We lived in a NJ commuter town where quite a few residents worked on Wall Street in the 1973-74 time period. I remember my wife and I going to the school across the street from our home to hear a presentation by a Wall Street brokerage firm on why we should invest more money in stocks. Three weeks later quite a few of the locals, Wall Street stock traders and brokers were out of a job, unemployed. Things happened fast and we didn't have the internet back then. All the indications were ghost written on the wall at that meeting. Oil prices had started to rise along with inflation, admittedly for different reasons than today's situation, made no difference in the potential end result, the stock-market declined substantially it was the beginning of a recession.

Just a reality check....
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 19:10
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I think most of us understand the market is a volatile place with busts and booms being a part of the landscape. So yes, you are right to be wary, eventually every market becomes a bear market.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 23:47
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WC,
Thanks for your post. It is nice to be able to discuss current events on this forum on a rational basis. That is what the internet creation was supposed to be about, but has, for the most part, been just the opposite.
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