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Old 7th Dec 2017, 18:42
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Any value greater than zero counts in law - as in the cliche of one penny or one dollar received being sufficient to transfer title of a car (or anything else). An offer implies some value.

Solicitation is irrelevant - it does not matter whether you go to someone else and suggest robbing a bank, or they come to you first, if, in the end, you enter into the arrangement.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 18:48
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full View Post
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Any value greater than zero counts in law - as in the cliche of one penny or one dollar received being sufficient to transfer title of a car (or anything else). An offer implies some value.
Well the only party to actually get any information are the Democrats - part of that information was an allegation that Trumps lawyer met with the Russians in Vienna, an allegation that has proven to be totally false. So what value does fake news actually have?

Solicitation is irrelevant
Of course it insn't - it is illegal under the same Federal Law that you are citing.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 18:59
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Without quid there is no quo. You are talking consideration, which a gift is not.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 19:46
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Contract Law 101.....there must be Offer AND Acceptance for a "Deal"....or in legal terms Contract....and exchange of some thing of value to be binding.


Oh....bye the way folks....Senator Al Franken is now going to be Al "Smalley" Franken post Resignation he just announced following the Sixth Accusation of Sexual Misonduct.

Chalk up some more of the sleazy rascals in Congress....and before Chuks starts another Russian Novel length post....I am pleased whenever ANY one of the sleazy rascals gets the can tied to their tails.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 20:45
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2 to 1. That's the historic ratio between Republican sexual sleaze balls and Democratic ones in Congress and the federal government over the past several decades.

7 to 1. That's the ratio between Republican hypocrites involved in sex scandals and Democrats in the same situation.

I am pleased whenever ANY one of the sleazy rascals gets the can tied to their tails.
So we can share a drink of celebration when Trump is impeached and Moore is toast? What's your favorite brand ole buddy? I'll buy.

Pattern_is_full is spot on regarding campaign contributions. Although, as an aside to that conversation, I should add that thanks to Citizens United, a case that about half of the US Supreme Court got woefully wrong, foreign money can be injected into the electioneering process and it is now 100% legal.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 21:59
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Spot on. Citizens United establishes campaign advertising as speech. "Congress shall make no law...."

Any statute limiting speech is not Constitutional. Much ado.....
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 22:01
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It's a damn good thing your commander in chief has immunity
No immunity. Exposure to sanction of the Executive is Limited to political remedy. Impeachment is not immunity.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 23:29
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The USDOJ is beginning to deal with its bias issues.

But then the Lefties will deny they exist.


Top DOJ official demoted amid probe of contacts with Trump dossier firm | Fox News
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 01:21
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Tom Edsall of NYT has an interesting take and his link to Ed Schnurer’s USN&WR article are thought provoking.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/o...2Fopinion&_r=0

Paywalled, but you can get 10 free links.

Question being, if it’s true the blue states subsidize the red ones (I think it’s more complicated than oft posed); why do they put up with it? The blue states could easily vote to kill various Federal programs that allegedly subsidize the red states and fund them in their rich blue states at less cost. By the same token, they might drive the allegedly poor red states to their knees.

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Old 8th Dec 2017, 01:21
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Putin Controlling US Olympics Team?

Nikki Haley, America's ambassador to the United Nations, suggested that the United States' participation in February's Winter Olympics in South Korea remains up in the air, while the White House said Thursday that "no official decision has been made" regarding the games.
So Russia gets banned from the Olympics and now Trump is contemplating not participating. Direction from Putin?
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 01:39
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Am I missing something?
Yes, the fat lady hasn't sung yet, not even arrived at the opera house, but on her way....
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 13:06
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Another defeat for the Democrats....Nunes cleared of any wrong doing by the Ethics Committee which investigated allegations he "leaked" classified information.

On the other hand we have to recall Hillary's Emails (and her staff and friends emails) did compromise classified information but was not prosecuted by Obama's DOJ.
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Nunes cleared of any wrong doing by the Ethics Committee which investigated allegations he "leaked" classified information.
Isn't the charge, the investigation, and the finding an FBI responsibility? How can congress usurp this task?
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 15:19
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Originally Posted by vapilot2004 View Post
2 to 1. That's the historic ratio between Republican sexual sleaze balls and Democratic ones in Congress and the federal government over the past several decades.

7 to 1. That's the ratio between Republican hypocrites involved in sex scandals and Democrats in the same situation.



So we can share a drink of celebration when Trump is impeached and Moore is toast? What's your favorite brand ole buddy? I'll buy.

Pattern_is_full is spot on regarding campaign contributions. Although, as an aside to that conversation, I should add that thanks to Citizens United, a case that about half of the US Supreme Court got woefully wrong, foreign money can be injected into the electioneering process and it is now 100% legal.
97.5% of all stats are just made up.

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Old 8th Dec 2017, 16:05
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Another defeat for the Democrats....Nunes cleared of any wrong doing by the Ethics Committee which investigated allegations he "leaked" classified information.
How is a ruling signed by both the committee chair and the ranking member (a Democrat - Ted Deutch, Fla.) a "defeat" for the Democrats? Bipartisanship at its best - the Ethics committee, unlike any other Congressional committees, is always evenly divided between the parties, no "majority" majority allowed.

You're letting your inner "drunken monkey" and your sectionalism cloud your reasoning.
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@lomopaseo - no biggy. The Ethics Committee got the complaint. They had "the deep state" review the documents in question, who determined that the information involved was not classified. Therefore the FBI etc. didn't care one way or the other, and the committee cleared Nunes.

Clearly the "anti-Trump deep state" overlooked a wonderful opportunity - or (as sane people understand), they are not actually anti-Trump, but pro-Truth.

Although sometimes those amount to the same thing.
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 17:13
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@lomopaseo - no biggy. The Ethics Committee got the complaint. They had "the deep state" review the documents in question, who determined that the information involved was not classified. Therefore the FBI etc. didn't care one way or the other, and the committee cleared Nunes.
Wow, our congress at it's best as a watchdog for transgressions

I haven't been charged with killing my wife yet. any chance that congress can clear me beforehand if somebody files a complaint?
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 20:58
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
97.5% of all stats are just made up.

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Did you just make that up?
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 21:17
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Did you just make that up?
An answer of unimpeachable accuracy available here:

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Old 8th Dec 2017, 23:08
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Roy Moore accuser made false entries in her Year Book that she used as evidence for her accusations against Moore.....OOPS!

CNN got it all wrong (yet again...) on the Trump Junior contacts with Wikileaks...based upon some very questionable leaked information thought to be from the Democrat side of the Intelligence Committee.

Then we see Mueller's staff's close involvement with the Democrats and Hillary Campaign being put on display...and the DOJ demoting a very senior individual.

Are we right to think the wheels are coming off that wagon?
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Old 9th Dec 2017, 00:25
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gf,
97.5% of all stats are just made up.
I suspected this, especially the ones you quote from...
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