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Old 25th Oct 2017, 17:40
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I don't care for people who link an article, and prefer to write my own source material, but it's important to note the sources here.

Obama Administration Granted Visa To Russian Nuclear Official In Bribery Scheme Linked to Clinton's State Department

Newsweek(or, as we say - Newsweak) hates Trump with a passion. They also are a Clinton darling media org.

Pretty sure this Clinton Uranium deal is going to leave a mark. The kind of 'cannot be buffed out' kind of mark. Even the liberal media isn't going to sit on this like they do everything else. If the media ever gets their claws into Hillary - she is well and truly done.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 21:10
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360+ million people and the best two they could find to fight for the Oval Office were Hillary and Donald.

Truth be know the US totally deserve what has happened and Hillary bithcin about not being able to beat Donald really does sum it all up.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 21:32
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Originally Posted by Seldomfitforpurpose View Post
360+ million people and the best two they could find to fight for the Oval Office were Hillary and Donald.
I know - it has got to be the most bizarre election of all time. An election between 2 of the absolutely worst candidates you could possibly imagine - pity I didnt bet on it.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 21:39
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Originally Posted by Seldomfitforpurpose View Post
360+ million people and the best two they could find to fight for the Oval Office were Hillary and Donald.

Truth be know the US totally deserve what has happened and Hillary bithcin about not being able to beat Donald really does sum it all up.
64 million people and look what we have, think about that one.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 21:57
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Originally Posted by air pig View Post
64 million people and look what we have, think about that one.
Absolutely, imagine the world with Donald and Jezza in power.......
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 22:01
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The Democrats ran Hillary against Trump....and the Republicans ran 16 Candidates against Trump....and all 17 of them lost to Trump.

Who would have bet on that?
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 22:10
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Originally Posted by SASless View Post
The Democrats ran Hillary against Trump....and the Republicans ran 16 Candidates against Trump....and all 17 of them lost to Trump.

Who would have bet on that?
I wish I'd had 50 on that result at the start of the selection process.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 22:16
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Hillary backers:
1) 95% of the US media
2) 99% of the intl media
3) 3.3x the money of the RNC
4) Sitting administration
5) Russian money
6) Euro endorsement(quiet, but it was there)
7) Hollywood + NY elites *Including WEINSTEIN.

Trump backers:
1) middle America
2) Modest(very) GOP support, AFTER he defeated the Bush clan
3) Bannon $$$

Not only no support from the media the 4th estate HATES him. Most of the GOP US governors stayed silent, or endorsed right at the end. Comey was out to hang him, Obama had him 'wiretapped'(yes, I know not actual wires involved). The Koch Bros sat on their hands this time.

And yet - the voters were heard. It's like Brexit - writ larger. I will recall with relish the faces on the DNC and the TV analysts about 2am when Trump was declared. It was soooooo rich. All those tears, all that gnashing of teeth and slump of shoulders.

Glorious. Now we find out she's far more filthy than everyone first thought. What a scummy be-otch
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 23:39
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Now post-election we have TDS running rampant amongst that same bunch of folks to the extent if Trump cured cancer, ended Global Warming, and freed all the Slaves in the World.....he would be be accused of putting Doctors out of work, killing hospitals, tampering with the climate, and creating mass un-unemployment.

One thing for sure....he is not the typical politician, standard run of the mill President....and has the wonderful ability to be under-estimated by all of his enemies.

That and having immense personal wealth....makes him a very real threat to the Deep State and Elite Political Class.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 02:01
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Demos have been harping the "Trump colluding with Russia" for a year.

Turns out that everyone EXCEPT Trump was colluding with Russia.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 02:12
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Mac:
You and I agree on a lot of topics relative to modern health care, both in your country and mine. And so I have respect for your opinions.

However, as regards the present POTUS I don't think you are quite grasping what it is that those of us not opposed to Trump are seeking. We want to clear out the entrenched political deadwood of both parties. It's a messy job, and Trump is certainly as messy as they come. As I've said before, hopefully, candidates of character and quality in both parties might emerge once the establishment has been cleaned out.

But here's a simple question: Between your country and mine (SA vs USA) which one has a leader with the potential to lead to a better country and society for all its citizens?
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 02:51
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Trump, like him or not, did one thing that needed to be done. The US has been run by 2 families for a very long time. It was either a Clinton or a Bush... and he destroyed 2 political dynasties in one election. Perhaps when his time is over some fresh new people might come in and reinvigorate both parties and the ideals of democracy in general in the US.

But, people need to get out and vote no matter what because... sometimes you have to choose between
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 04:14
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Demos have been harping the "Trump colluding with Russia" for a year.

Turns out that everyone EXCEPT Trump was colluding with Russia.
dunno whether that makes Trump smart or stupid..
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 04:30
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After all the weeping and gnashing of teeth by the Democrats we then had to watch the street riots and beating up of Trump supporters as well as the Democrats trying to explain that it was their God given, undeniable right, with Clinton, to be the ruling party and providing the POTUS.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 04:39
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Mostly Harmless, the last election was like an old Simpson episode coming true. It's been a long time, and I don't remember now if it was Bill Clinton vs. Bush or vs. Dole, but the story line was the slimy space aliens had kidnapped both the presidential candidates and replaced them with space alien clones. Homer finds out, and tries to tell people to vote for someone - anyone - else. The space aliens just laugh their evil laugh and say something like "Go ahead, throw your vote away!".


Selecting the POTUS reminds me of an old Grocho Marx (I think) line - that he wasn't sure he wanted to belong to a club that would have him as a member. I'm not sure I want a POTUS who actually wants that job.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 10:03
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Trump Junior meets with a Russian who had Opposition Research data on Hillary.

Trump Junior rejects the information on offer....pays nothing.

Over a Year....the Democrats demand investigation for up to and including "Treason".

Now we have Marc Elias, the Clinton Campaign, and the DNC caught red handed meeting with Russians, Agents for Russians, paying for Opposition Research (found to be pure bunk) and......crickets heard.

The de-bunked Dossier was used as an excuse to investigate the Trump Campaign by the FBI and Congress for "Collusion with the Russians" to include a Special Prosecutor which is still digging.

Except now...there are reports that digging is going on in the Democrat Garden where it seems there is some very good soil with lots of worms unlike in the Trump Garden which was full of rocks.

Now....when are we going to hear the Media calling for Heads to roll....and charges of Treason?

After all....the government used bogus information to kick off investigations and un-masking of American Citizens in what has to be considered illegal acts owing to the collusion of Obama Administration (think Democrats here folks) in those un-maskings and support of Investigations into innocent people.

Why doesn?t Hillary?s ?dossier? trick count as treason? | New York Post
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 11:49
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I'm sure CNN/MSNBC will cover it thoroughly with no bias !
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 12:14
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Originally Posted by SASless View Post

One thing for sure....he is not the typical politician,

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I said it again and again and people laughed.

He is not the President the US wanted, he is the President the US Needed.

Decades ago politicians went into it to be of Service, now it is how rich they can become.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 14:23
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I think draining the political establishment swamp is exactly what America needs.

However, draining the swamp of corrupt life long politicians and replacing them with corrupt Goldman Sachs executives may not be the answer.

It is early days and the experiment of privatizing the US Federal Government will not end will.

But it will make a few wealthy captains of industry even wealthier.

And that will do nothing to improve the lives of average Americans.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 14:33
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racedo

Decades ago politicians went into it to be of Service, now it is how rich they can become.
I don't think enrichment enters into very much, after all the work is too hard.

I do think that it's more of the satisfaction of your opinions being heard and acted upon
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