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Old 1st Jul 2016, 03:17
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And Bill Clinton also had a "coincidental" private airport meeting with Ted Cruz in Feb.

Highly suspicious - aides for both "declined to discuss any details of what happened or what they discussed."

Just up the road in Mobile, SASsy. Geez, you coulda taken you camera up there and outed this obvious conspiracy against the Trumpster.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us...cruz.html?_r=0
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 05:21
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But it is a case of two conflicting rights.
I don't disagree with most of what you said. I fully understand there are many tangents to the question of whether an abortion is morally ethical given certain circumstances. I recognize abortion will never be parsed down to a couple of lines of argument for or against. I simply disagree that it should be used to abort completely viable fetus when the mothers life isn't in danger. Abortion shouldn't replace responsibility after a night of partying.

That said, it's the law.
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 18:28
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AG Lynch is in self preservation mode now....which is good news to all who believe this is a Nation of Laws.

She knows she got caught in a very compromising position....no matter what was discussed in private between her and Bill Clinton.

Standards of Conduct and Regulations about Ethical Behavior clearly call what she did in Phoenix to be improper.

She is now saying she shall go with the recommendations of the FBI Director who is well known Man of Honor....and Career DOJ Staff.

Shel also says she came to that decision Months ago....but declined to tell anyone that until she got caught in her Airport Liaison with the Husband of the Subject of a many Month long Criminal Investigation. A Man by the way that could very well wind up being the Subject of a similar Investigation if Leads are found which implicate He and his Wife in illegal dealings at their joint Foundation.

What a tangled Web we weave when we first deceive....or words to that effect by Billy Shakes A Spear.


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Old 1st Jul 2016, 18:41
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..... or words to that effect by Sir Walter Scott.
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 20:13
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Oh! what a tangled web we weave  : When first we practice to deceive!
~Sir Walter Scott, Marmion

In a nutshell: politics.
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 21:35
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Bloody stupid of her. Shows how small a circle power in the US runs.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 00:54
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FL,

Does the AG have to recuse herself now.....or is she still free to participate in any proceeding involving the Clintons...Billy and Hills?
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 02:39
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Does the AG have to recuse herself now.....or is she still free to participate in any proceeding involving the Clintons

No, even if she does her minions will follow what the boss wants done anyway.
Just remember if HRC does not get prosecuted and HRC gets elected then the AG has a wonderful 200K per year job with bonuses and paid speaking privileges for four more years worth at least 1M+ along with a few million in retirement benefits.
Do you think the AG would take a chance of losing that kind of money by mounting a prosecution?


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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 05:23
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Let us not forget to inform the casual observer that the entire 'scandal' is nothing more than another gussied up fishing expedition by a group of sanctimonious bastards known as Citizens United - the same group we can thank for pushing for, and succeeding in opening the floodgates to corporate money feeding directly into political campaigns by overturning a key provision of the wise and bipartisan McCain-Feingold Act.

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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 06:00
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vapilot - just think of Citizens United as a hidden tax on the donor class. I'm overjoyed the Koch boys et al have been throwing millions of $$ away on elections, to no practical effect.

Sadly, (for conservatives who loved their support, and liberals who loved their spendthrift ways) the Kochs are smart guys, and have figured this out for themselves.

Koch Brothers Scale Back Campaign Spending: NR Exclusive | National Review

See also: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...blicans-219598

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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 08:32
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I like your philosophical outlook, Pattern. I sure hope the millions spent are money wasted.

It really chaps my ass that a bipartisan effort to get at least some of the money out of politics, led by the maverick himself, Sen. John McCain, was all for naught thanks to those bozos.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 16:42
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We do agree, VAP on the Citizens United thing as destructive to the election process.

I might point out, though, that George Soros has done the same thing as the Kochs, and the Clintons will not be far behind.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 18:02
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...wed-fbi-emails

"Hillary Clinton was interviewed on Saturday at FBI headquarters in Washington, regarding the investigation into her use of a private email server while secretary of state in the Obama administration. The interview lasted three and a half hours.

A Clinton spokesman, Nick Merrill, issued a statement: “Secretary Clinton gave a voluntary interview this morning about her email arrangements while she was secretary. She is pleased to have had the opportunity to assist the Department of Justice in bringing this review to a conclusion. Out of respect for the investigative process, she will not comment further on her interview.”.......
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 21:27
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It really chaps my ass that a bipartisan effort to get at least some of the money out of politics, led by the maverick himself, Sen. John McCain, was all for naught thanks to those bozos.
You cannot be that naive....neither Party wants any limits on Political spending....other than limiting the other Party so long as they can keep theirs.
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Now bill is saying he regrets his meeting withim the AG. FFS,the few times I've done lowly jury duty it comes with the admonishment not to talk with either party if seen in the elevator, waiting room, etc. Two lawyers somehow forgot this, to the point of regret. Bull, this was an arranged meeting and they got caught.
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One Lawyer and one dis-barred Lawyer!
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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 05:04
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We do agree, VAP on the Citizens United thing as destructive to the election process.
Excellent, OBG. Too bad some of the greedy bozos in Congress and the Electorate can't seem to get it right.

I might point out, though, that George Soros has done the same thing as the Kochs, and the Clintons will not be far behind.
I would imagine the definition of 'same' here is rather loose.

On Wild Bill and the AG, I agree it was an incredibly stupid thing to do, on the part of the former president in seeking out the AG, and on Lynch's allowing it to happen.
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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 05:20
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You cannot be that naive....neither Party wants any limits on Political spending....other than limiting the other Party so long as they can keep theirs.
While I am sure we agree there are members of both parties that think they benefit from unlimited and unregulated campaign funding...a little walk down history lane is informative SAS, and has the potential to banish naivety:

The original bi-partisan bill, introduced by Sens. McCain (R) and Feingold (D) went down in flames in the Senate with all 45 Democrats joined by 6 Republicans YEA and 49 Republicans NAY on a 60/40 cloture vote which would allowed the bill to have an honest floor vote had it passed.

When it was revived in another form in the House, this guy tried to prevent a floor vote:



Dennis Hastert (R), who you may recognize as not only the (then) Republican Speaker of the House, but also as a serial child molester - we can save that distinction for another conversation...

House legal maneuvering brought the bill for an up or down vote and it went like this:



Senate voting also went nearly along party lines, which like the House vote, included some enlightened members of the GOP voting for the measure:



Despite the passage of the law, Majority Leader McConnell (R), vowed to fight against it.

So, it seems to me there is a clear dichotomy between the two parties on how to limit campaign money. Democrats say less money, while most of the GOP - save a few good guys, and a few odd Democrats seem to want to keep not only the status quo in place, but in their dark glory, succeeded in facilitating the unprecedented injection of electioneering money that will ultimately sell 'the truth' to the highest bidder - at least in the preoccupied minds of a far-too-large group of average, voting Americans.

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Old 4th Jul 2016, 23:23
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Poll: Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by 6 - CNNPolitics.com

Don't count him out yet. See what happens when you avoid stepping on your Longfellow too many times in a week, you narrow the gap.

Or...could it be Hills is just that repugnant?

Maybe both.
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Old 4th Jul 2016, 23:44
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Of course, any debates will not be teleprompted, giving DT wide scope to step on his Longfellow several times this Fall....unless he ducks the debates (maybe he'll offer to debate Bernie again. )
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