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Old 24th Feb 2017, 10:34
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Originally Posted by SASless View Post
Being "Poor" causes one to take up Terrorism the man suggests.
Suicide bombers are typically not going to Uni, driving round in daddy's big Merc. Osama was the exception, not the rule. Terrorist training camps exist not in the South of France, nor in Cabo San Lucas, but in some of the most poverty stricken regions on the planet. Of the 7 nations on your president's rebuffed list, not one comes to mind as a Mecca of wealth and capitalism.

The roots of the terrorism we face today are undeniably intertwined with our shameful past where the intersection of poverty, greed, and natural resources shouted down our better angels.

Poverty is supposed to be the cause of Crime in the USA according to the Loony Left
You and some of the loons on the right, with no scientific basis for stating such things, might want to get have a gawk at a law enforcement crime map. Violent crime is always higher in and around impoverished neighborhoods. Pick a major US city and get back to us, SASless. Meanwhile know that the connection between the two was understood since the times of the great Greek thinkers.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 11:00
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GF that quote comes from Satre and not Camus.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 11:26
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Who is a terrorist?
This bloke has an opinion.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 12:05
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Suicide bombers are typically not going to Uni, driving round in daddy's big Merc. Osama was the exception, not the rule. Terrorist training camps exist not in the South of France, nor in Cabo San Lucas, but in some of the most poverty stricken regions on the planet.
And strangely enough those camps receive plenty of funds by one of the wealthiest, most medieval nations on this planet.
Funny thing is that they got so rich thanks to us, capitalistic pigs.
No good deed goes unpunished.

The roots of the terrorism we face today are undeniably intertwined with our shameful past where the intersection of poverty, greed, and natural resources shouted down our better angels.
And there you have it, folks: denial at its finest.
That lovely ideology called islam has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. It's our fault, not theirs.
I'm starting to think that Hitler was really just a misunderstood chap, he didn't want to start a war after all. What was Churchill thinking?

Violent crime is always higher in and around impoverished neighborhoods. Pick a major US city and get back to us, SASless. Meanwhile know that the connection between the two was understood since the times of the great Greek thinkers.
Did the Greek thinkers realize that throwing money at them was not the solution?
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 12:30
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vapilot,

The trailer-park residing or 'middle America' white folks with xenophobic and racist predilections are the folks that not only couldn't tell your Mexican from your Palestinian (they're both brown, they're both damn furriners and we ain't a haven' any of their kind at our hootenanny), and were also the ones that put the head xenophobe and racist in chief, Trump, in orifice.
That's but one example of your hatred of Americans that disagree with your huffy-fluffy view of the world. Dems have gone wild-eyed with hatred and it shows.

As to diversity, you might look at former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. Jewish history, Lebanese if Africa. Having diversity or being different doesn't make people understand each other. People go to war over three simple things--fear, honor and interest. The "other" is more often seen as a threat. As a friend in HKG says, "if Asians weren't making money, they'd be killing each other."

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Old 24th Feb 2017, 15:11
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We are told that the new Trump administration approach to illegal/undocumented immigrants is simply enforcing the law. That may be partly true, but it's a type of law enforcement utterly devoid of humanity and civilised behaviour.
The law is what it is and blind.

One man's humanity and civilized behaviour is another man's anarchy.

We have too damn much re-interpretation of the law as it is thus rendering it useless to deter repeats.

OK, that is probably because the words are never enough, but like the regulations in our aviation side of things we need some form of acceptable advisory material t0 understand how far is up.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 15:19
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The Liberal Mantra....poverty is the cause of crime.

Pure rubbish!

If that were the case....why are not all poor people criminals?

Why do Rich Folks engage in criminal acts?
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 16:24
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Poverty/crime

South Side Chicago. Desperately poor, but arguably the most law abiding community in America. Murder rate? The worst in the Country, virtually all gang related, and Black versus Black.

Huh?

There is no law in the hood, only tacit behavior, subject to the "code". When I used to visit the Sears building, and look to the South on a dark night, It was dark, not a streetlight to be seen. Each light that got replaced was instantly shot out. That was a policy of "Public Works", a "municipal" endeavour that served local "governance". Dark is good, if one's business is gang related. Abandoned by the police, there was only "natural law".

Like I said, no crime. Only rules, enacted by an aware populace cognizant of the "social contract". So, by definition, a stable community....

@lomapaseo: + 1
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 16:42
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Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.
A sad story, the world is full of them. She could have avoided the situation by not entering the US illegally.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 16:49
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 17:15
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Originally Posted by vapilot2004 View Post
Suicide bombers are typically not going to Uni, driving round in daddy's big Merc. Osama was the exception, not the rule. Terrorist training camps exist not in the South of France, nor in Cabo San Lucas, but in some of the most poverty stricken regions on the planet. Of the 7 nations on your president's rebuffed list, not one comes to mind as a Mecca of wealth and capitalism.

The roots of the terrorism we face today are undeniably intertwined with our shameful past where the intersection of poverty, greed, and natural resources shouted down our better angels.



You and some of the loons on the right, with no scientific basis for stating such things, might want to get have a gawk at a law enforcement crime map. Violent crime is always higher in and around impoverished neighborhoods. Pick a major US city and get back to us, SASless. Meanwhile know that the connection between the two was understood since the times of the great Greek thinkers.
But the folks on the terror and gang side that finance the mayhem are the ones driving cars worth way more than tawdry Mercedes, certainly have had a better education on what it takes to attain and retain their "CEO" position(s) and guide their flocks through thick and thin, convincing empty young minds that they care for them, right up to the point of death.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 17:39
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DONALD TRUMP REVIEWS THE 2017 BEST PICTURE OSCAR NOMINEES


“Manchester by the Sea”
A loser goes back to his home town, in Pocahontas Warren’s Massachusetts, after burning down his house. A real dump! Sad!

“Arrival”
Aliens come to America illegally and a nasty woman completely misses her chance to wipe them out. Sad!

“La La Land”
Two Hollywood liberal élites fail miserably. Ryan (Long Face) Gosling isn’t very attractive. Should have just walked up to Emma Stone and started kissing her. Sad!

“Fences”
All talk, no action. Sad!

“Lion”
Dev Patel (Bad dude? Possibly!) goes back to his country and doesn’t stay there. Nicole Kidman, once a ten, wears a horrible wig. Sad!

“Hidden Figures”
This film is the story of some African-Americans who were able to escape the burning inner cities and work for totally overfunded nasa. FAKE NEWS! Sad!

“Hacksaw Ridge”
Mel Gibson is a tremendous talent and an even better husband! All the haters and losers need to get OVER the stuff he said on tape. Mel never claimed he’s a perfect person! Move on! Sad!

“Hell or High Water”
Two real Americans go after the banks while exercising their Second Amendment rights. Things go horribly wrong when they forget that #BlueLivesMatter. Sad!

“Moonlight”
A total disaster.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 19:06
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I saw Lion, I mentioned to my wife that Nicole Kidman looked a bit frumpy compared to her normal roles. She kept her clothes on for the entire movie as well.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 19:48
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I, too, have seen Lion - well worth watching.

An amazing story portrayed excellently.

Young Saroo is a star!
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 20:03
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Agree, he's a star in the making.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 20:26
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Sunny Pawar.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 22:04
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vapilot,

I guess your meme that ."Trump is my guy" makes you feel superior and somewhat smart, if smart-a**ed. However, my "guy" would have been either Bill Weld or, better yet, Charlie Baker, R-MA, governor of the People's Republic of Mass. Both understand how to make an economy run (as opposed to the previous Democrat in 1600 Penn), both are plain speaking, educated men who know how to say, "I don't know the answer." Both earned their chops in business, like another fave Mitt Romney--getting a clue of my tastes.

All that said, politics us the art of the possible, not the ideal or desired. My desire would be for Goldwaterian, libertarian country, vastly smaller government, less engaged in the ingrates called Euros, standing as an example, but not enforcer of freedom. Examples at the extremes--the law says don't drive under the influence and, at one time, that did not preclude a beer on the long drive across Texas or Montana. Now, because we don't hold people to be disciplined about their behavior, we have a tiny bit less freedom. At the other extreme, we used to enjoy freedom of association, speech and action, if it didn't harm others. Then Jim Crow took those freedoms away from whites and blacks in an effort to force segregation. This happened 40 years after the Civil War and, somehow, the courts approved what was clearly unconstitutional. Mostly, under the influence of the excreable president Wilson, who was adamantly opposed to constitutional governance. Now, government can censor us, tell us who to conduct business with or associate with. The elite enforce a code of speech daily. If I have a private business, I had the freedom to decline to transact or not, at my discretion. No longer.

Government expands and Liberty recedes.

GF

Read how the depression was avoided in 1920 after Wilson thoroughly screwed the economy. Good book, btw

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanl.../#42d22d9ebd86
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 22:39
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GF

I don't have anything to offer....

Galaxy Flyer has said it better than I could....

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Old 24th Feb 2017, 22:49
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Ditto, GF describes the world I want to live in.

I suspect vapa would be lost if there wasn't someone there to outline how every facet of his daily life must be lived. There of course must be some structure, but not to the degree that occurs here in California and many other states, to include red ones. The overreach of the state of California is stunning, I'm by law not allowed to capture rainwater that falls on my property, this instead must be allowed to drain to the gutter and flow into the ocean untouched by humans. Moonbeam Brown recently allowed me to capture the water flowing from my roof recently, but put out a collection barrell in my yard and I've run afoul of the law.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 23:36
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Fake news. Here's the real rainwater statute:
Californians may now legally capture and use rainwater harvested from rooftops. Departing from Western states' long-standing tradition of making it illegal to capture and use precipitation based on the prior appropriation doctrine, the California Legislature enacted and Governor Brown signed the "Rainwater Capture Act of 2012" [2012 Cal. Stats. ch. 537, Sec. 2.] (the Act). The Act exempts the capture and use of rainwater from rooftops from the State Water Resources Control Board's (SWRCB) permitting authority over appropriations of water. This development affords residential users and private and public entities with a new source of on-site water supply, which should reduce reliance on potable water for landscaping needs and provide a recharge benefit to underlying groundwater aquifers. - See more at: https://www.lexisnexis.com/legalnews....PMle6oZK.dpuf
Note that it wasn't Brown who was responsible for the initial law about rainwater capture. And it's not just California.

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