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Old 17th Feb 2017, 20:07
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Charlie Golf.....do keep up will you?

Even here there are posts about Trump on National Television just a day or so ago....in an exchange with a Reporter where he put out an invite to the CBC (no...not the fine folks up in Canada) like Maxine Waters, John Lewis, Elijah Cummings et al, for a Sit Down.....something they seemed to resist doing.

Perhaps it is your prejudice that needs reviewing and not Trump's alleged bias that has been shown to be more false news.

At the Trump Rally I attended in Greensboro, North Carolina....and duly reported here in Jet Blast....it was a Black Gay Male that retrieved an American Flag from an Anti-Trump Protester.

Doctor Ben Carson is one of his Cabinet Nominees.

My advice to you is making statements such as you just did, despite the clear evidence that repudiates same.....does not paint you in a good light.

Get over it....Trump IS the President and Hillary IS NOT.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 21:20
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In an exchange yesterday with a reporter, Trump revealed he has extended his hand to Elijah Cummngs, for whom he had some complimentary things to say, ( which I do not share). He has invited Cummings to visit and chat...Cummings agreed, then, citing "it might look bad", he reneged...

Waters, Lee, Cummings, Booker, et al, are puppets. They have had the same message as long as I can remember: "the White Man is keeping you down..."

These folks are quite well off, having been at the trough for decades, whilst nothing changes in their constituencies....It is amazing how they keep getting elected.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 00:04
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Concur

Trump never contacted Cummings. You are just lying like Cheeto.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 02:03
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valilot2004,

The concept of "checks and balances" fails completely to influence the "administrative state, aka "deep state". The bureaucracy is very nearly unaffected by any check. Originally, as the bureaucracy grew, the courts paid deference to the executive branch over the facts of a case, but with the Chevron case, the courts give the executive not only control over the facts but also over the law as passed by Congress. The SCOTUS held that the agencies could determine what the law was and the facts of a regulatory case would be judged.

With 29 years in the World's a Greatest Bureaucracy, I can attest few senior or middle level bureaucrats could care what a Congressman or a Senator thinks or requests. I once told Sen Kerry's (D-PDRMA) military advisor to pound sand over the Senator's sudden interest in a constituent that I was about to remove wings from. Congress has little real power to oversee a bureaucracy of 800,000 on a daily basis. With only two elected officials in the executive branch, the bureaucracy takes the time-honored tradition of "they'll be gone and we will still be here", meaning they ain't budging for any mere political appointee.

Next up, conspiracy theory and why I don't think Talbot is all that far off. Mark Felt believed he should have been appointed director upon J. Edgar Hoover's death. He wasn't as we all know, L. Patrick Gray was. Felt continued to approve FBI break-ins of domestic terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, all the while acting on "conscious" by leaking to Bob Woodward the goods in Nixon as "Deep Throat". He was wronged and instead of acting honorably was dishonorable in revenge. Any doubt he would have never dialed Woodward if he got what he wanted? Not here.

The bureaucracy acts in its own interest--greed is inherent in the human condition. Public choice theory--build an empire, get promoted, be somebody is the ONLY incentive in the US Government.

GF

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Old 18th Feb 2017, 02:28
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The position of NSA is not a position requiring Senate consent. That is why a known loon like Flynn could get it.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 03:08
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Second military vet considered for NSA refusing the position. Not sure if he doesn't want to work for a coward, anti-semite, and/or Putin.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 03:24
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All those crying over Trump's illegal immigrant policy should know the truth about deportations in multicultural paradises like Australia or Canada.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/tr...ons-15018.html
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 03:46
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what gets me is all this nancying around - journalists using the words untruths and falsehoods - he mispoke.
No - they're lies.
And he's a liar.
Simple.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 04:10
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" Perhaps it is your prejudice that needs reviewing and not Trump's alleged bias that has been shown to be more false news " .

Priceless ! .....would this perception be, say, in contrast you own totally impartial and pragmatic comments at all ?

That, and the distinct absence of any Black, or indeed any ethnicity, other than God fearin, all American white Anglo-Saxon middle age males, has been rather conspicuously evident to the rest of the world....and, while we're on the subject of non diversity, there's hardly a prominence of women either.

Another poster, on another thread, has kindly provided a link which rather negates your perceptions as to popularity....even lower than one GWB in fact, which takes some doing, and also offers some clarification as to just how America benefitted from the former President, the one whom you seem to feel was the Devil incarnate, not that this perception would involve any decidedly conscious bias on your part as we know.

This, therefore, to supplement the above reference with regards to another link, which, coming as it does from the BBC, will, no doubt, simply be dismissed as "false news".

Trump tracker: How much has President Trump achieved so far? - BBC News
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 04:20
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Hell....the media still will not call any Clinton a Liar.....not withstanding that out stretched fore finger and Blue Dress all rolled up with a Perjury conviction for Bubba!
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 05:51
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Drain the Swamp!

#FAKENEWS #SAD!

#caveatemptor

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.4b3465b352ef
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 08:36
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SASless, "You have to remember we are coming out of eight very dark years of an administration that had a singular purpose when it came to Race Relations and that was not to admit the truth and only to create division and unrest however possible between the Races."

Sorry, maybe I'm being a bit dim, but why should the Obama administration have wished to to that? And how? I would have thought the opposite!

Confused Mac



Edited to add: Hempy, is you think that is expensive, just check out our President Zuma with his dozens of wives, concubines, children and pals, all of who have to be provided with houses, cars, chauffeurs, bodyguards and etc., etc!
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 08:41
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The Press according to JFK

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C45rHh2V...jpg&name=large
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 09:17
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Very thoughtful quote from jfk.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 11:26
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The only time I remember a sense of glory in American politics
was when Kennedy was elected.
There was a feeling that a new age had been embarked upon, with energy.
I don't remember that with Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush(s), Clinton.
I remember that when told, in sixth grade gym class, the news,
All the girls cried and the boys were silent.
That was in Canada.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 12:58
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Mac,

Obama ran on being the Healer...the Bringer Together....then once elected he took every opportunity to divide the Races.

Think not...just go back over his embracing of Black Lives Matter, "Trayvon could be my Son if I had one.", "The Cambridge Police acted stupidly", his siding with dead Thugs shot by Police every time it happened, sending Representatives to dead Thugs Funerals but not to murdered Police Officers, etc.

Every President has the "Bully Pulpit" and if used properly can either divide or draw together this nation.

Did he do anything about there murder of Blacks by Blacks in Chicago....his adopted Home Town?

Did he put down Riots in Ferguson, Baltimore, Los Angeles or at least speak out against it?

He ordered the dropping of the Consent Decision against the New Black Panther Party, dined with Black Lives Matter, had Al Sharpton into the White House despite his owing over Four Million Dollars in back Taxes, the list just goes on and on.

He talked about the White Folks in Pennsylvania who cling to their Guns and Religion (Christians).

He played the Race Card as if that was the only Card in the Deck.

He promised to fix the US Immigration system....but did not make any serious attempt in the whole eight years he was in Office....even when at first the Democrats had an unstoppable majority in Congress.

To be the "First" Black President....he sure missed a wonderful opportunity to really improve Race Relations in this country by speaking for the poor who have to live in violent, drug ridden, urban locations where murder rates far exceed that of the casualty rate for our Military engaged in armed combat against organized forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That is why I consider him a Racist, a Fraud, and a Failure.

He was a Community Organizer and never rose to opportunity to actually do something for the Blacks in this Country that needed doing....telling the Race Baiters to shut up and do something to solve the problems not just make a good living stirring up more hate and division.....plainly because he was doing exactly the same even when in the White House.

At least Trump is talking about the problems and offering to do something about them....yet the Black Community, led by the same old tired bunch of Race Baiters, are refusing to accept that out reached hand.

Who is missing the real opportunity here.....Trump?

Who missed the opportunity....I firmly see Obama as having grossly missed the very opportunity the Blacks in this Country ever had. The first Black President and a Democrat controlled Congress....and what did they get from that?

You tell me!
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 13:56
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Somewhere in the White House...

"I see we have an inventory of ten thousand nuclear bombs".
"Yes sir".
"And we are paying, what, a trillion dollars a year building and maintaining them?"
"Yes sir".
"So what are we getting for all this money"?
"They ensure peace and stability sir".
"Okay, so how do they do that? How do we use them?"
"We can never use them sir, they are just there, just in case".
" So you are telling me that we are spending a trillion dollars a year on useless junk that we can never use"?
"Well, I wouldn't put it like that sir..."
"Listen, I'm a business man. If I have stock on the shelves and it isn't selling, do you know what I do? I go out there and sell, I discount, I get that product out into the market."
"I wouldn't advise that sir".
"We've got all that stuff just sitting around doing nothing. Hell I bet we don't even know if half the stuff still works. Bring me that briefcase over here, the football one".
"Er, sir...".
"Don't argue with me son. There, you're all fired!"
"But..."
"This is going to revitalise the world. We can build all new stuff and revitalise the economy, clear all the old garbage out of the way. Full employment, no migrants, everything built in the USA. I'm just a business man and let me tell you, I know how to do business and get things done fast."
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:19
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Now there is an idea....but seriously speaking...did we not have a similar situation following the demise of the USSR?

There was a great fear some of their suddenly surplus Nukes might find their way onto the Black Market.

For a lot of reasons that did not happen.

That Football thing can issue the authorization...but cannot actually launch the a weapon.

There is no way the President...any President can just snap his fingers....or just snap....and carry out a First Strike using Nuclear Weapons.

The Secretary of Defense can act as a Time Delay that will allow for a confirmation of the need for the Launch.

This is the stuff for movie plots.

Think back to how close we came to Nuclear War with the Soviets during the Cuban Missile Crisis....and that was real...very real!

The Soviets and the Americans took measures to improve security after that.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:40
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 View Post
To whomever typed this I think his first name's Rahm.

As to VADM Harward declining the offer ... well crap, that was always going to be the problem with a President Trump. Who wants to work for that guy? I can see VADM H doing an analysis of the terrain he'd be operating in, regarding such folks as Bannon, and making a decision to not engage on ground not of his own choosing.


We lost a good one there. (Further comments censored ...)
So a wrongly typed first name by me, yet you made the connection, negates all the shooting deaths in Chicago under his watch, utterly amazing.
I'm sure all the family's that have lost loved ones really don't give a damn what his first name is.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:56
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
valilot2004,

The concept of "checks and balances" fails completely to influence the "administrative state, aka "deep state". The bureaucracy is very nearly unaffected by any check. Originally, as the bureaucracy grew, the courts paid deference to the executive branch over the facts of a case, but with the Chevron case, the courts give the executive not only control over the facts but also over the law as passed by Congress. The SCOTUS held that the agencies could determine what the law was and the facts of a regulatory case would be judged.

With 29 years in the World's a Greatest Bureaucracy, I can attest few senior or middle level bureaucrats could care what a Congressman or a Senator thinks or requests. I once told Sen Kerry's (D-PDRMA) military advisor to pound sand over the Senator's sudden interest in a constituent that I was about to remove wings from. Congress has little real power to oversee a bureaucracy of 800,000 on a daily basis. With only two elected officials in the executive branch, the bureaucracy takes the time-honored tradition of "they'll be gone and we will still be here", meaning they ain't budging for any mere political appointee.

Next up, conspiracy theory and why I don't think Talbot is all that far off. Mark Felt believed he should have been appointed director upon J. Edgar Hoover's death. He wasn't as we all know, L. Patrick Gray was. Felt continued to approve FBI break-ins of domestic terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, all the while acting on "conscious" by leaking to Bob Woodward the goods in Nixon as "Deep Throat". He was wronged and instead of acting honorably was dishonorable in revenge. Any doubt he would have never dialed Woodward if he got what he wanted? Not here.

The bureaucracy acts in its own interest--greed is inherent in the human condition. Public choice theory--build an empire, get promoted, be somebody is the ONLY incentive in the US Government.

GF
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See it everywhere, every day.

The good ones that want to make a difference just rollover, and the band plays on.

Sad but amusing to watch when Flag Officers arrive for their command ticket stamping.
All departments nodding heads, agreeing with every utterance.
Behind the back, this is the umpteenth one, take em 6 - 9 months to figure things out, 6 months to try to implement, then new posting arrives and hey presto, 2 years gone by, nothing changed, here comes the next one, ad inifinitum.
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