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The Crimes of Christians - According to Obama

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The Crimes of Christians - According to Obama



President Barack Obama while being recognized at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C.

President Barack Obama wants Christians to know Islam is not the only religion that has inspired violence and terror.
"Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ," Obama said Wednesday. "And in our home country, slavery, and Jim Crow, all too often was justified in the name of Christ."
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Is he playing the race card?
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President Barack Hussein Obama.

He would say that wouldn't he.
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^ No, Just stating facts. Haven't most religions committed genocide?
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All religions are bullshit ...

... so what's the surprise .. ?
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Some Americans think their President has Islamic leanings;

Conveniently forgetting that he authorised the killing of Bin Laden, authorised the killing by drones of HVIs in greater numbers than his predecessor, including American terrorists (who should be arrested apparently - they have rights) and led the Coalition against IS.

Apparently they also forget that other religions have also been involved in mass killings and wholesale slaughter, including in Bosnia.

Their complete subjectivity and hatred of Obama leads them to lose any objectivity or common sense.

IMHO.

Haven't most religions committed genocide?
Yes. Unless you think the world started when Obama got elected. But if you do, then you probably think the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth.
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No, Just stating facts. Haven't most religions committed genocide?
Depends on the magnitude, but you could say they, as well as atheists socialist communists. Mind you the latter seems to take it to an even greater scale.
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All religions are bullshit ...
Okay, then why don't you head over to the Middle East, find some of those nice, friendly ISIS folks and tell them that. I'm sure that they would love to debate that with you.


Oh, and I'll stay here if you don't mind.
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BBC News - Barack Obama lauds 'good friend' Dalai Lama
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Pity he didn't lean on his other 'good friend', one Jacob Zuma to get the Dalai Lama a visa to visit South Africa for a Nobel Laureates conference.
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How much longer are you chaps stuck with him?
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How much longer are you chaps stuck with him?
One year, 336 days, 12 hours and 56 seconds, but who's counting.
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Goodness me a lot of irreparable damage can be done in that time!

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Christian atrocities - past tense

Crusades ended in 1291
Spanish Inquisition ended executions in 1826 (unexpectedly )


Muslim atrocities - present tense

Saudi street beheading 2 weeks ago.
Saudi Arabia publicly beheads woman in holy Mecca as blogger lashings are postponed - Middle East - World - The Independent
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any other killings done in the name of religion, other than Islam, since 1826?
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(thinks . . . the boys who were abused and who later topped themselves . .

they could almost qualify. In a perverse sort of a way.)
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There's a reasonably well organised listing here.

Killings for Christianity

The Balkans and the Middle East are recent examples.

The Balkans is such a mess of nationalism and ethnicity that I don't think anyone reckons the recent wars were primarily religious.

The Christian atrocities in the ME (e.g. Lebanon) were generally in direct response to prior Muslim atrocities.
e.g.The leader of the Sabra and Shatila massacre was the war criminal Elie Hobeika. His fiancée had been raped and murdered in 1976 by the Palestinians in the Damour massacre of Christians by Arafat's PLO and other Palestinians.

Witch-burnings in Nigeria is probably the biggest cause of Christian killings at the moment.

However, the numbers game puts the muslims way up at the top of the list.


India, of course.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India
Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims. They're all at it. Even a bunch carried out by the Christian British, though not for religious reasons.
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Professor Brian Cox, in a recent doco he compared, attempts to deliver the message that the only thing that can save the world from annihilation is to embrace the advance of science. But he does not say in what way the world can be freed of dogma, superstition, greed and violence.

It's a juggernaut . There is no way of stopping it.
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Buy every intolerant religious person a one-way ticket to Syria.

Bake for 50 years.

And a better world emerges.

Juggernaut tears itself apart. Job jobbed.
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c'mon . . back to reality

a fascist state will rise in the west sooner or later, since democracies are probably going the way that blighted the best of intentions in the days of Socrates

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