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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 17:17
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ISIS.....again

Is there no end to this evil oufit.

Burned alive in a cage: ISIS release video claiming to show horrifying murder of captured Jordanian pilot | Daily Mail Online

It's time the world dealt with this once and for all!
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 17:24
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It's time the world dealt with this once and for all
I 100% agree - but how ?

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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 17:56
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Easy. It worked with the Japanese, it will work again. But no-one has the balls except perhaps the Russians? Get them involved and they take no prisoners!
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 19:24
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It's time the world dealt with this once and for all!
Dealt with what? Religion?

I dare say you maybe right; no time like the present.

Stephen Fry nailed it the other day.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 19:47
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ISIS.....again

For those that didn't see Stephen Fry's take on the matter. http://youtu.be/-suvkwNYSQo
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:05
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Kelly - The Russians are involved, up to their bloody necks!

To précis hugely, the west has cocked up in the Middle East. Would we have invaded Iraq if it was one of the world's biggest producers of onions? I don't think so. We helped create the instability that is fertile breeding ground for nutcases.

But Russia has kept -- and is keeping -- Syria's Assad in power and that has led to what started as peaceful demonstrations being hijacked by extremists which has in turn led to the Islamic State.

I wrote on these pages many moons ago about ISIS. The fact that Al Qaeda of all people disowned them as too extreme was a clue many didn't pick up on. People didn't really care when Raqqa was taken over by them. It was only when they infested Iraq that they really took notice.

It is a total and utter clusterfook.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:14
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The fact that Al Qaeda of all people disowned them as too extreme was a clue many didn't pick up on.
You mean that they aren't all the same?

(Most 'Western' people will assume so.)
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We helped create the instability that is fertile breeding ground for nutcases.
Yes, the Sykes–Picot Agreement between Great Britain and France (plus some influence by Russia) in 1916 set the boundaries for the mess we are dealing with today.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:32
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con, since you were being a gentleman about it: yes, Europe, once again we are still cleaning up after the FUBAR'd mess you truck load of idiots made after WW I. That clean up process includes the whole thing called WW II, but that isn't the end of it. The Break up of Yugoslavia is also a residual from that redrawing of lines.

That we also got involved in a mess in the Mid East, where you European geniuses left a lovely clusterhump, should not be a surprise as it's an utter political mess to start with.

Thanks so much for leaving it for others to clean up, which you have shown that you cannot and will not, particular after your petulant little sulk over the Suez Canal in 1956.

Now, back to ISIS:
1. In whose interest is it that these cnuts run amok?
2. In whose interest is it that these cnuts are put down?
3. And who really cares less?
Answers to 1 and 2 I leave to you.
Answers to 3 include ... China. If they cared, a bit more might be done, and might not.
They have other fish to fry.
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gorter,,, I had just come home from visiting my mother in a home where all her adult life has been spent dealing with mental illness.

Two bible bashers knocked on my door and I answered...

I think they went away to reconsider their religion.
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Just heard on Channel 4 news that the Jordanians are going to hang the failed female suicide bomber, they have got captive, in reprisal for the death of the pilot.
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Surely it is not beyond the wit of the whole world to put aside differences for a moment and get together in a Grand Coalition, under the auspices of the UN if we must, to wipe these vermin off the face of the planet?

Sadly, it probably is.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 21:08
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The time has come to accept that we, in the west are WRONG.

We should throw our lot in with Assad (and the Russians) and wipe these evil thugs off the face of the Arab world. If that requires the use of battlefield nuclear weapons to make the evil shit understand the error of their ways, then so be it.

For all his faults Assad is no fanatical Muslim, and Christians, and all factions of Islam lived (reasonably) peacefully within Syria until the "Arab Spring" when the whole thing fell apart with the support of us (the West) against Assad's regime. What a God almighty mess we have caused as a result of our foolish meddling.

Same is happened, sadly in Libya, where we assisted in unseating Gadaffi, and Iraq, where we removed Hussain.
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Just heard on Channel 4 news that the Jordanians are going to hang the failed female suicide bomber, they have got captive, in reprisal for the death of the pilot.
Too humanitarian - infect her with ebola, and watch her die in agony, preferably on Youtube.
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She's a woman. These barbarians couldnt care less about what happens to her.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 21:21
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Originally Posted by ATNotts"
The time has come to accept that we, in the west are WRONG.

We should throw our lot in with Assad (and the Russians) and wipe these evil thugs off the face of the Arab world. If that requires the use of battlefield nuclear weapons to make the evil shit understand the error of their ways, then so be it.

For all his faults Assad is no fanatical Muslim, and Christians, and all factions of Islam lived (reasonably) peacefully within Syria until the "Arab Spring" when the whole thing fell apart with the support of us (the West) against Assad's regime. What a God almighty mess we have caused as a result of our foolish meddling.

Same is happened, sadly in Libya, where we assisted in unseating Gadaffi, and Iraq, where we removed Hussain.
Too true. Geopolitics is a dangerous game.
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Originally Posted by Dea Certe
She's a woman. These barbarians couldnt care less about what happens to her.
Will she get rogered by 72 studs?
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 21:37
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I don't know. I do know women are considered fairly disposable. remember those little girls who were fitted with exploding vests and sent into a crowd? And the little Down Syndrome girl also in a suicide vest? Females of any age have very little standing except for sex, manual labor and child bearing.

This latest bit seems to rise to the level of crimes against humanity. Maybe it's time the whole world gets involved. The world is being affected by these murderous hordes.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 21:38
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Bad ideas are more dangerous than bad people. We'll keep having these problems as long as we keep believing in bronze age superstitious nonsense.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 21:49
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There's nothing new about gross mistreatment of captured pilots. The RAF chappies who flew in the 1920s and 30s 'keeping the natives in check' in what is now Iraq carried a revolver for a bit of quick terminal self-medication if they were forced down in the badlands because the alternative didn't bear thinking about.

The Russians weren't exactly welcoming of any German pilot shot down behind their lines, and I seem to remember that a few Polish and Czech pilots flying with the RAF in 1940 were said to have 'died of wounds' after bailing out of their Spitfires and Hurricanes because they had funny accents when rescued by irate English farm hands.

Back in 1970, when US forces went into Cambodia officially, they found a crashed FAC (from a few months earlier when the US had been there unofficially) with the pilot's body strung up on a frame beside the aircraft. Evidence suggested he'd been skinned alive. (It was standard procedure for the other side to set an injured pilot up with his survival radio in an attempt to get a rescue mission to come in. Meanwhile, they'd have half a dozen 12.7mm MGs set up around the crash site.) That particular ambush didn't go quite to plan, so they amused themselves for a few hours and possibly days with their knives.)
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