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Old 6th Dec 2014, 17:15
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We need teleportation now!

Flying is a hassle.
Driving gets tedious.
So decided to take a future trip to Chicago in a sleeper on Amtrak. Now this:

4 People Stabbed On Amtrak Train In Michigan
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Old 6th Dec 2014, 17:27
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You still should go ahead with your plans, as this was on a local stopping train, a different beast altogether. There's always the chance that some high class nutter (fellow passenger) will slice you into carpaccio before you get to the Windy City though...


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Old 6th Dec 2014, 17:42
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Teleportation, logically, is death and cloning

I always wonder why in Star Trek when they teleport someone, a local copy isn't retained at the transmitter end.
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I always wonder why in Star Trek when they teleport someone, a local copy isn't retained at the transmitter end.
They do, they just slide down the back and join the heap on the floor when the lid is opened.
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You still should go ahead with your plans, as this was on a local stopping train, a different beast altogether. There's always the chance that some high class nutter (fellow passenger) will slice you into carpaccio before you get to the Windy City though...
Or Maybe thirteen of them!!*

Remember Spaceman Digby's problems with the Telesenders in Dan Dare and the Arthur C Clarke short story Travel by Wire!


*Murder on the Orient Express
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Old 6th Dec 2014, 18:22
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Mr Crun, a question for you: if as you are being teleported, you break wind, does the fart emerge at the destination end, blow back to the transmitter or just float around in hyperspace ? From watching Stargate SG-1 I think it accompanies the team to the far end but I'm not sure about the Star Trek system. Either way I'm not going to try being teleported until I know what's awaiting me in transit.
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Old 6th Dec 2014, 20:14
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You need to watch the movie The Fly. The fart and you would recombine as one at the other end! Best policy would be to let it out before you go teleporting

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Old 6th Dec 2014, 20:40
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The fart and you would recombine as one at the other end

As a man, I have no problem with this. I have it on good authority that ladies reabsorb farts anyway which is why they never emit them.
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Re Star Gate SG1: it's always intrigued me that every humanoid settlement in every far reach of every galaxy speaks perfect English with a North American accent - almost as if every such humanoid was found in some extras pool in west LA.

Was this explained at some time early in series one? Was there a Douglas Adams-style Babel Fish inserted in the ear of all the Star Gate teams before they stepped thudablu? If so, I missed that episode.
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Old 6th Dec 2014, 22:02
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I'd read somewhere that Gene Roddenberry only introduced teleportation to Star Trek as the original idea, to have the saucer section of Enterprise undock and land on the planet, would take too long. Inspired move, it became a signature piece of the series.

In the world of physics we do now have evidence of successful teleportation - unfortunately, or thankfully, it is only possible at the quantum level. Photons have been successfully teleported across a few km. In reality what is being teleported in a form of "information" that characterises the quantum particle. A very long way off from "beam me up Scotty".

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For those who are into the genre and haven't seen it then you may wish to check out the movie "The Prestige". Nice little twist to the teleportation thing - won't spoil for you. David Bowie puts in an appearance as Nikola Tesla, and of course anything with Michael Caine is always worth a watch.

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In a modern-day remake of the series, a spaceman wanting to be teleported to Aldebaran 3 would have a problem because Windows 2025 would get hacked and he would be sent to Nigeria to be held for ransom inside a USB stick.

But it would solve the jail overcrowding problems, just teleport them all into a USB stick or SD card and file it away fro the appropriate number of years. No need to feed, no riots, and you could even conveniently lose some off the back of the warden's desk.
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There's always the chance that some high class nutter (fellow passenger) will slice you into carpaccio before you get to the Windy City though...
That can be easily countered by you also carrying a knife.

I Figure the odds would be astronomical against two in the same car on the train
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Photons have been successfully teleported across a few km.

I think about 120 kms. Mainland Spain to the Canary Islands, or some such place. The intention was to do the experiment with the Aldebarans, but they couldn't be bothered, and one can hardly blame them.
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If all this talk about quantum particles popping in and out of existence is to be believed, then maybe doing it selectively on a mass scale to send a whole human assembly of them isn't so far fetched after all, brain patterns, personality and all.

Maybe they could do a bit of readjustment en route and get rid of our personality flaws en route, I wouldn't need it mind.
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You do have to ensure that the teleportation chamber is bug free though


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OK, so lets be serious.

Analysing what a human person is composed of and ordering up the same materials at the other end ready for a reconstruction ? Feasible I guess.

Scanning a human being and transmitting that data to the other end to assemble a duplicate from the materials ? Just about possible but that is one heck of a lot of data. Huge bandwidth required. Buffered storage, error correction and so on. A massive job, but one day, maybe yes. No technical problem, although remember what happened to Mel Brooks in "Spaceballs".

Scanning the consciousness of a human being and inserting it into the duplicate mentioned above ? Now there we do have a problem. I don't know how that could be done.
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Teleportation... Hmmm, can you you really take grown men wearing latex on their heads seriously?
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Yes, I believe so. It demonstrates personal responsibility in avoiding unwanted pregnancies and STDs...
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Subscriber Trunk Dialing is indeed one of the greatest menaces of this age. Bring back the old telephone exchange staffed by hundreds of helpful young wenches !
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