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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 16:19
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Trees, huh! Luxury!

I was involved in a democratic election in Nigeria once, one that also involved a Bell Ranger helicopter. (Heard of the Jet Ranger, have you? Ever heard of the Ranger, then? No, I didn't think so.)

I had to take a maintenance crew up to scenic Maiduguri one day, in a Cessna 402C, to meet Gloomy Gus and his lone Ranger. (He was so called because the only time you ever saw him crack a smile was when the harmattan was so bad that the birds were walking, down at Escravos.)

After they had done whatever it was that helicopter mechanics did to helicopters, then we all had lunch at the Hotel Deribe, or as Gloomy Gus called it, the Hotel Terrible.

By the time we returned to the aerodrome, that terrible lunch was doing terrible things to my digestive tract. It was clear that Lagos was out of range unless I took emergency action, but of sanitary facilities at the aerodrome there was not a trace, aside from one miserable little bush, about knee high. Thank God that those little telephones with little cameras had not been invented yet!

My fellow aviation professionals all had a wonderful time mocking me in my hour of need there, crouched behind the little bush, until I pointed out that they were in for a long ride back to Lagos in my Cessna, at my mercy if I felt the need to review "recovery from unusual attitudes," or perhaps an even longer walk. Then they calmed right down.

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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 16:47
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Originally Posted by prospector
In this thread you have made many statements that go against all the evidence presented to the Grand Jury....
That's what this thread is all about.
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 16:52
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chuks wrote:

Heard of the Jet Ranger, have you? Ever heard of the Ranger, then?
Ranger? did someone say Ranger?

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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 16:59
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Wrong Ranger, there. Both are frightening to any sane person, but this one flies instead of floating down under a cloud of silk.
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 17:08
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I stayed in the Deribe in Maidugari for a month or so. Seemed to me the best (and safest) hotel I ever used in Nigeria with the large exception being that, as it was owned by observant Muslims, it had no wet bar.

After an excellent landing etc...
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 17:37
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“There was a disconnect between the community and the police department. There were just too many instances of police tactics which put the credibility of the police department in jeopardy. Complaints against officers. There was a communication breakdown between the police and the community. There were allegations involving use of force that raised questions.”
No, not Ferguson, this was Lt. Jeff Fuesting talking about the Jenning police after he took command of that force following the entire force having been booted out and new officers appointed.


Racial tension was endemic in Jennings, said Rodney Epps, an African American city council member.

“You’re dealing with white cops, and they don’t know how to address black people,” Epps said. “The straw that broke the camel’s back, an officer shot at a female. She was stopped for a traffic violation. She had a child in the back [of the] car and was probably worried about getting locked up. And this officer chased her down Highway 70, past city limits, and took a shot at her. Just ridiculous.”
Police faced a series of lawsuits for using unnecessary force, Stichnote said. One black resident, Cassandra Fuller, sued the department claiming a white Jennings police officer beat her in June 2009 on her own porch after she made a joke. A car had smashed into her van, which was parked in front of her home, and she called police. The responding officer asked her to move the van. “It don’t run. You can take it home with you if you want,” she answered. She said the officer became enraged, threw her off the porch, knocked her to the ground and kicked her in the stomach.

Jennings is where ex-officer Darren Wilson learned his policing skills and culture. Yeah, I am sure that nice white police officer Wilson was super polite and 'respectful' when he spoke to the guys walking down the road.

Darren Wilson?s former police force was disbanded for excessive force and corruption - Salon.com
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 17:56
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John, whether you like it or not the Grand Jury has spoken. Dredging up dirt on Wilson is not going to change that. Besides the very same article you quoted says:

According to officials interviewed by the Post, Wilson maintained a clean record
Even Washington Post* couldn't find any direct link to Wilson and any shenanigans in Jennings.




* Do Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein still work there?
 
Old 2nd Dec 2014, 18:18
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Suggestions on a postcard, John?

I assume that you are, ever so subtly, saying that you are sure that Darren Wilson was rude and disrespectful to these two fools walking down the middle of the road, John. Yes, perhaps he said something like "Hey, Fools! Get out of the road and back on the sidewalk where you belong!" Tch-tch!

Please give us an example of the standard of dialogue you would expect to hear from the po-lice when you and your nappy-headed friend be taking a stroll down the middle of the road, John. I would like to know what that should be, really!

No joke, I know a young man serving with the Bremen police force, so that I could send your reply to this simple question along for his deep consideration. (Yes, John, "deep consideration" really means "being sent into peals of laughter," but, hey, you started it!)

I think it's always good for the police to get input from members of the general public, to see what sort of problems they may have to deal with.

You know, reading some of these posts is beginning to make me understand the possible need to shoot some members of the general public, just because .... Not fatally, just to inflict some painful, thought-inducing wound.
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 18:31
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chuks wrote

Wrong Ranger, there. Both are frightening to any sane person, but this one flies instead of floating down under a cloud of silk.
Not always under a "cloud of silk", chuks. But I think you already knew that!

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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 20:02
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Taki's Magazine: Who Are the Cowards Now?
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 21:24
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No joke, I know a young man serving with the Bremen police force, so that I could send your reply to this simple question along for his deep consideration. (Yes, John, "deep consideration" really means "being sent into peals of laughter," but, hey, you started it!)
You know chuks, you are engaging our John way too much here and not giving him enough time to go and post in the thread that practically has his name on it:

I'm sorry I haven't a clue....
 
Old 2nd Dec 2014, 21:36
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When rgb refers to his being a 'Ranger', what exactly does he mean? Something like these recognized selections?





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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 23:21
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John, police target people, thats art of their job. It relies on many inputs to decide what they are doing.

When I grew up, Young men where stopped according to what they where targeting. Primarily young white males. Why hoons, and yes we where leaned on a lot, was it fair, well I suppose if you where the one that kept your nose clean it wasn't.
But in a sense it kept the hoons running out of control. If you where a smart @rse, then things would get progressively worse. If you where polite and respectful, you may just get a stern talking to.

We also had a large population of blacks, they to where targeted for other reasons, same rules applied to them as to us. In this case it was drunken unruly behavior.

The facts are, if there is a significant social group where the problems are, then they will be targeted. If they happen to be black, then you guessed it, the main people who will be stopped will be black.

Its like asking a airport security office why he is targeting Muslims and black people, when he may be looking for a white supremacist terrorist.
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 23:28
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I knew it rh200, the TSA are looking for Swedish Pentecostals.
 
Old 3rd Dec 2014, 00:03
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RH,

It is just like Fishing....it works best if you go where there are Fish.

The Cops are supposed to be doing something useful beyond just riding around in their shiny Police Cars on their way from Donut Shop to Donut Shop.


Seems there is no shortage of Rangers these days....they come in all kinds!

Three Combat Infantry Badges (CIB's) would suggest a guy has been there and done that.



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Old 3rd Dec 2014, 01:51
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After the newest justice dept edict, it will probably be necessary, when searching for a black rape suspect, to stop and question an equal number of elderly Asian women in the interest of fairness, and then to fill out a form with four copies saying you have done so.

I truly now fear for our society and this country.
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Old 3rd Dec 2014, 03:03
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Its like asking a airport security office why he is targeting Muslims and black people, when he may be looking for a white supremacist terrorist.
I feel a need to offer my most humble apologies for that last comment. I know all you bra burning feminists and huggy fluffies, and what ever other terms apply to fruit loops will be in a lather about it, so I am correcting it.

Its like asking a airport security office why gender neutral personnel are targeting Muslims and black people, when gender neutral personnel may be looking for a white supremacist terrorist.
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Old 3rd Dec 2014, 05:00
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I wonder how far this will fly?

Police say they want to interview Louis Head who was caught on video shouting "Burn this b**** down!" moments after grand jury decided officer would not face charges for his stepson's death
Michael Brown's stepfather investigated for 'incitement' - Telegraph
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Old 3rd Dec 2014, 06:56
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We all target (maybe profile is a better word) people. At least situationally aware(that seems to be not a word) people are. When you walk down a high - shopping street or airport concourse you are subconsciously and consciously in some cases,evaluating threat levels at all times. Depending on where you are, race sometimes comes into the equation.
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Old 3rd Dec 2014, 07:25
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Many years ago Mr run I was unfortunate enough
to have to walk around in LA's Watts area. There,
one has to profile EVERYTHING if one expects to
survive for any measurable time as a white man.
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