Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

A USA gun thread. That won't be controversial, will it?

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

A USA gun thread. That won't be controversial, will it?

Old 22nd Oct 2014, 19:55
  #81 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 61
Posts: 5,578
Originally Posted by Lord Spandex Masher View Post
A poet. Didn't need no stinking guns either.
If you don't want one, don't get one.
Simples.
Lonewolf_50 is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 19:59
  #82 (permalink)  

Aviator Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Age: 73
Posts: 2,394
If you don't want one, don't get one.
Simples.
No sense trying logic with this one, he doesn't know the front of the bus to the back.


Oh, ran out of popcorn.
con-pilot is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 20:02
  #83 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: England
Posts: 1,955
Was she sitting in the front then?

LW50, are you talking about me or Havel?
Lord Spandex Masher is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 20:08
  #84 (permalink)  

Aviator Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Age: 73
Posts: 2,394
Hey, running out of popcorn is real serious you know.
con-pilot is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 20:11
  #85 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South of Old Warden
Age: 83
Posts: 1,379
OK guys, time out while Con goes out to buy popcorn.
goudie is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 20:18
  #86 (permalink)  
Thought police antagonist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
Posts: 955
I'm prepared to listen to your words on many things, when you know your stuff, but not when you talk from a position of total ignorance

That's terribly kind of you. Unfortunately, I am not totally ignorant as to what I saw and experienced, both in the 70's and afterwards in Germany.

Neither have I ever perceived the former East Germany as some form of utopia.

Your comments about the food however, and the fact you managed to find some French bases, is quite telling.

Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth as it were, as HM Gov't kindly sent me on two tours and on both of them, I travelled as much as I could.

Doing so offers a diverse range of experiences, places and people.

It's a shame you didn't avail yourself of the same opportunity but there again, you are a paid up member of "Little England".

For shoddy products, the TV Tower in Berlin and the lift speed takes some beating.
Krystal n chips is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 20:18
  #87 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Zealand
Age: 73
Posts: 508
Ben There
I never claimed President Reagan did it himself. It was a joint effort that included the brave Eastern Europeans, dating from the Hungarians of 1956, who continued their resistance until victory was in their grasp. Maggie Thatcher was key as well.
Ha ha, is there any way you can weave Winston Churchill in your story too?
John Hill is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 20:34
  #88 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
Easily. I think it was Churchill who coined the phrase 'Iron Curtain' at Fulton College, an obscure liberal arts school in Missouri.

Fighting Communism after WWII was arguably as large a task as WWII, itself. Like WWII it was global, comprehensive, and had many heroes. The devastation of Socialism was vanquished, but we fight it yet, today.

I sense you have a problem with that, JH.
BenThere is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 21:11
  #89 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Age: 56
Posts: 218
Actually, it was at Westminster college, an obscure liberal arts school in Fulton, Missouri.

Heck, I can't spell European capital cities or Scandihoovian stoves, but, by God, I lived 15 miles from KFTT...
421dog is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 21:19
  #90 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
Thanks for the correction. I shouldn't post off the top of my head without doing the easily done google. I was close, though, eh?
BenThere is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 21:43
  #91 (permalink)  
PTT
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 441
Originally Posted by BenThere View Post
Eastern Europeans also had no hope on paper of standing up to their totalitarian governments and the Soviet Union in the late 1980s. Yet Walesa and the Pope, Havel, and others prevailed, didn't they?
Yes, they did. And without guns.

Good luck in your struggle though
PTT is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 21:46
  #92 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
Guns (force) was involved. Don't delude yourself.
BenThere is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 22:22
  #93 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Age: 67
Posts: 3,332
Let's look at a couple of popular uprisings where the US Mil was beaten. There's Vietnam and all the ancillary battlefields; there's Iraq, there soon will be Afghanistan. We sorta won in Central America. The North very nearly got beaten by the South. Of course, there's the argument we won them on the battlefield and the politicians lost the war, but winning the battle is irrelevant.

No doubt, a large uprising in the US could be a modern sequel to the Revolution. The pols would give it up.

GF
galaxy flyer is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 22:33
  #94 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
I would take issue and assert that the VietNam war was not lost. Communist expansion was challenged, and while VietNam was lost initially, Capitalism eventually prevailed and the Communist attempt to subjugate VietNam was ultimately defeated.

Today, Russia and China do not subvert democracies and in fact, they are voraciously capitalist. Russia, with its energy and China with its manufacturing are capitalist in the extreme, much more so than the US ever was.

They operate today unburdened by any sense of responsibilty for world order, freedom of the seas, et al., and make no contributions like GPS, internet or interference with genocide.
BenThere is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 22:40
  #95 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8
"Vietnam war was not lost" That's a good one and the CIA was there for the sport and not the Heroin right?
Richo77 is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 22:43
  #96 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Edinburgh
Age: 53
Posts: 100
Russia does not subvert democracies? Really?
perthsaint is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 23:20
  #97 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Age: 67
Posts: 3,332
Richo,

So, were the Aussies!

GF
galaxy flyer is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 23:42
  #98 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Zealand
Age: 73
Posts: 508
Ben There, Churchill was a great friend to the USSR giving them jet engine technology and likely other post war assistance.
John Hill is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2014, 23:55
  #99 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Back in the NorthWest
Age: 73
Posts: 111
I liked the idea of using balloons to simulate gunfire then I thought "What the heck, why don't we just cut out the middle-man".


BOING is offline  
Old 23rd Oct 2014, 00:25
  #100 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: CYZV
Age: 73
Posts: 1,259
Churchill was a great friend to the USSR giving them jet engine technology and likely other post war assistance.
I'm calling bullshit on this one! In 1946 at the urging of Sir Stafford Cripps the British pro commie Minister of Trade, the Labour Government of Clement Atlee gave Russia 25 RR Nene turbojets as a goodwill gesture. The Russians reverse-engineered them, called them the Klimov something or other, and installed them in the Mig 15, where they were used against Allied pilots in Korea.
pigboat is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.