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Old 21st May 2016, 15:54
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I think that personality comes into it. If Kim Jong-Un were not one sick puppy then he probably would have chosen a different course of action, one that might see him cling to power while also bettering the lot of his people. Given that they live in absolute, degraded misery it would not take a hell of a lot of doing to make their lot 100% better than it is. Instead all we see (unless we see things as our expert on all things North Korean chooses to see them) is things getting even worse!

Even if one accepts that the sorry lot of the average North Korean is down to the malice and incompetence of George W. Bush then, why should it prove impossible for the absolute leader of North Korea not to find a way to make some improvements for his people now, 7 years later? Not with nuclear weapons, ski lifts, and cognac but with, just perhaps, more than starvation rations? Too, does Kim really need to keep all those people imprisoned, often families through three generations? It might be interesting to let a few go and see what happens then, or is that a risk Kim is unwilling to take?

That Kim finds it a real good idea to threaten the USA with nuclear attack .... The last guy who tried that ended up taking the long drop, and that was after a rather indirect threat.
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Old 22nd May 2016, 04:04
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Fixed it for you John.

Facts and reasoning eh? Fact is, relations between the USA and allies and the DPRK never seems to improve and in fact is always in a state of crisis while the DPRK seem totally at a loss as to how to improve matters. Reasoning shows that if they do know how to improve matters they have no mind to do so.

Perhaps they like it like this.
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Old 22nd May 2016, 04:20
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The Kim regime want it to stay in power and apparently everyone likes it that way too. Pity about the 'ordinary' people of North Korea.
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Old 22nd May 2016, 05:06
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Out from under the bridge ....

"The Kim regime want it to stay in power and apparently everyone likes it that way too."

Some questions for you, John:

What is the "it" the Kim regime wants?

Define "likes" in " ... everyone likes it that way too."

Define "everyone." Does that include both yourself and the various others who comment here? If so, have you overlooked something?

Please explain the basis for your presenting Kim Jong-Un as a potential reformer. Was that over-optimism on your part?

If active hostilities escalate on the Korean Peninsula, will you blame that on George W. Bush?
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Old 22nd May 2016, 05:21
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Is it the personal policies of the current Kim - or are we seeing the big hats behind the leader influencing the young Wun?
Crikey, I don't think I'd want to be one of his advisors. They seem to blow up. One hint from a rival to the fat Wun, true or not that you're not 100% in agreement is a death sentence.
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Old 22nd May 2016, 09:01
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Yeah, like Ri Yong Gil and that chap who got fed to the dogs eh?
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Old 22nd May 2016, 13:38
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No, John, more like Jang Sung-taek and his nephew O Sang-hon. Remember them?
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Old 22nd May 2016, 14:35
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And their nephews Holi Fook and Sumting Wong.
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Old 22nd May 2016, 18:26
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Any relation to Wi Tu-lo and Bang Ding-ow?
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Old 22nd May 2016, 18:41
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Blood cousins. In NK that means something different.
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Old 23rd May 2016, 06:16
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Get the names right. That was Wai Tu Lo. Nothing worse than furriners getting the spelling of your name all wrong.
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Old 23rd May 2016, 12:56
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I thought that Wai Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong were the crew on the Korean airliner that hit the approach lights at LA. At least that's what the local TV station broadcast.
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Old 23rd May 2016, 14:01
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I thought that Wai Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong were the crew on the Korean airliner that hit the approach lights at LA. At least that's what the local TV station broadcast.
No, that was Wei Ah Wi and Wat Da Fuk.

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Old 23rd May 2016, 15:19
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KTVU said the names of the pilots as “Sum Ting Wong,” “Wi Tu Lo,” “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow.”
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Old 28th May 2016, 10:52
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What a shocking idea! Trump and the DPRK

Imagine actually talking to difficult countries, as Ronald Reagan successfully did with the Soviet Union! Trump knows that it takes a tough and effective leader to use negotiation and diplomacy instead of the reflexive use of military force, which has marked the weak and insecure presidencies of George W. Bush and Barack Obama.
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=8780

You just never know perhaps The Donald is smarter than all my friends on Jet Blast?
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Old 28th May 2016, 11:57
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Oh goody yet another new thread that has been started ( all by the same person ) about
that strange country near Japan - truly bonkers
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Old 28th May 2016, 12:02
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I think this guy used to be in the circus. Ever see someone in clown costume keeping six plates spinning, all at the same time?

Still, this one was worth it. How seldom one gets to see "Trump, negotiation and diplomacy" all in the same sentence. May we look forward to "happy, well-fed" and "North Korean populace" next?

"New Zealand" and "important player on the world stage" is another grouping I can hardly wait to see.
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Old 28th May 2016, 22:47
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The idea's espoused were from this person, who would appear to have a lot more experience, and qualifications of these matters then some on this forum.
Ivan Eland is Senior Fellow and Director of the Center on Peace & Liberty at the Independent Institute. Dr. Eland is a graduate of Iowa State University and received an M.B.A. in applied economics and Ph.D. in national security policy from George Washington University. He spent 15 years working for Congress on national security issues, including stints as an investigator for the House Foreign Affairs Committee and Principal Defense Analyst at the Congressional Budget Office.
 
Old 28th May 2016, 23:02
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Life is so good in North Korea?

North Korea: Kim Jong-un's aunt 'lives American Dream'.
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Old 29th May 2016, 00:14
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Did someone say life is good in the DPRK?
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