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Old 17th May 2016, 11:34
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instead ask yourself how we got to where we are and what we should do to change things for the better
John, I'm sure numerous Western leaders would like to hear your foolproof plan for turning NK into a Western ally and getting the Little Fat Wun to abandon his warlike ambitions and nuclear-armament stockpile.
I guess your plan would have worked just fine in stopping Japan's world-domination militarism in 1941, as well?

(and I'm not a gorgeous little blonde, and so I don't appreciate your condescending paternal tone, in referring to my "pretty little head", either - or is that the same tone you plan to use on the Little Fat Wun?)
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Old 17th May 2016, 11:38
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I suppose John can count himself lucky that the Americans stopped the Japanese at Guadalcanal.

It's not very far from New Zealand.
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Old 17th May 2016, 17:27
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What, you mean that while some people are starving others pay a months salary for a single cup of coffee? That is so, so, American!
John, average monthly wage in the US is ~$5,000/month - heck even minimum wage is well over $1,000/month. I don't know of anywhere in the US that they charge $1,000 for a cup of coffee.
As for starving, our problem is obesity, not starvation. NK should have such problems...
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Old 17th May 2016, 20:12
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As usual, no practical theories to be advanced just more of the same old..............

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Old 18th May 2016, 00:14
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Meanwhile, Donald Trump...

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump says he'd be willing to speak with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un -- a sharp departure from current U.S. policy toward the reclusive Asian nation.

The presumptive GOP nominee made the comments in an interview with Reuters on Tuesday, the news service reported. Trump said he would talk to Kim to try to stop the country's nuclear program.
"I would speak to him, I would have no problem speaking to him," Trump said.
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Old 18th May 2016, 13:45
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As usual, no practical theories to be advanced just more of the same old..............
What would you do John if you were in a leadership position and could set policy?
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Old 18th May 2016, 14:46
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"I would speak to him, I would have no problem speaking to him," Trump said.
The major shift in US/China elations was in 1972 when Nixon visited China and discussed the World with Mao. It took some time but for the Chinese people it was a watershed in their lives.
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Old 18th May 2016, 19:56
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What would you do John if you were in a leadership position and could set policy?
I would do what I have always said I would do and that is begin positive interaction.
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Old 19th May 2016, 00:36
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Has that not been tried already John?
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It has been tried before although rather limited in scope.
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Old 19th May 2016, 05:21
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1998-2007 is limited in scope? Kim Dae-jung winning a Nobel peace prize based off his extensive efforts is limited in scope? Seems the folks in Oslo disagree with you.
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Old 19th May 2016, 05:21
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John, you seem to have missed South Korea's prolonged attempts at making its "Sunshine Policy" work, what you might like to call "positive interaction." (You would not need to "begin" that which already had begun, John.) That was a policy that was finally abandoned after being judged a failure mostly due to North Korean unwillingness to respond to it to any significant degree.

Here you have stuck like a limpet to the North Korean line, ignoring uncomfortable facts that suggest that the North needs to show that it's being victimized, particularly by the USA, so that it, somewhat like you, is faking it. Then South Korean-US war games count for more than North Korean threats of first-strike nuclear attack, for instance.

Far from possessing insights into this situation you actually appear to only see what you want to see because of your obvious, extreme bias.

Please explain how this Kaesong industrial complex has recently failed. Did the USA sabotage it, or what?
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Old 19th May 2016, 06:17
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West Coast, Kim Dae-jun's Sunshine Policy came to an end when George Dubya Bush got into office.

The tone of Bush's attitude to the Sunshine Policy can be judged from reports of his telephone conversation with President Kim. "Who is this guy?,” Bush remarked after putting his hand over the mouthpiece. “I can’t believe how nave he is.”

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Old 19th May 2016, 06:51
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The tone of Bush's attitude to the Sunshine Police can be judged from reports of his telephone conversation with President Kim. "Who is this guy?,” Bush remarked after putting his hand over the mouthpiece. “I can’t believe how nave he is.”

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Originally Posted by Hempy View Post
Another Hempy fail!

Hoax Picture - Obama Holding Phone Upside Down
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Old 19th May 2016, 08:05
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I see that a bit of humorous sarcasm is beyond your grasp, but your wizardry with google is still as impressive as ever (although the link to the picture I posted was possibly a bit of a giveaway...)
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I see that a bit of humorous sarcasm is beyond your grasp, but your wizardry with google is still as impressive as ever (although the link to the picture I posted was possibly a bit of a giveaway...)
Humorous sarcasm? I don't think so. Just a failed attempt to ridicule someone you have issues with.
Link to picture? You did not highlight that, therefore that counts as a double fail.
No silly smilies with the original photo to show your wit and wisdom....triple fail!

Keep digging, we could do with some laughs this morning.
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Old 19th May 2016, 11:20
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Cut it out, siti.
Caught with our pants down, were we?

BTW, is that a framed picture of Tony Bliar I see behind the Dubya?
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Old 19th May 2016, 13:31
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The tone of Bush's attitude to the Sunshine Policy can be judged from reports of his telephone conversation with President Kim. "Who is this guy?, Bush remarked after putting his hand over the mouthpiece. I cant believe how nave he is.
Hearsay. The sunshine policy continued past Bush 43's ascendency to office.
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Old 19th May 2016, 13:35
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Siti

Good catch. I'm sure our friend Hempy would have kept quiet that it was "humorous sarcasm" and not the truth unless you called him on it.
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