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Old 1st Dec 2017, 16:29
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
I'm not sure.
The big hats would see it as an opportunity to take control (which they already have of course).
I disagree. The whole country has been brainwashed to believe that the Watwun is their single Lord and Master. They don't seem to have anyone visibly groomed and presented to follow him. A junta of generals would be a total break that might not be understood or accepted.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 16:58
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I donít think the US military is as good as DT thinks it is. Expect no miracles. This is not a Tom Clancy world and the idiot in th the White House is not Jack Ryan.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 17:46
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
I disagree. The whole country has been brainwashed to believe that the Watwun is their single Lord and Master. They don't seem to have anyone visibly groomed and presented to follow him. A junta of generals would be a total break that might not be understood or accepted.
Apart from expressing a desire for the biggest and most powerful firework on the planet, I don't believe that Kim has the nowse to direct operations.

It might be that the big hats depend on the man from DelMonte to say yes, but Kim cannot have the ability to devise strategic plans capable of being carried out without them.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 17:52
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Slight thread drift. I flew from Incheon to Vancouver on Wednesday. The Captain announced that we were taking off on the northwesterly runway and would be turning left and flying around the south side of Seoul. He neglected to mention that if we turned right, we would enter North Korean airspace, with probable dire results!
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 17:54
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
Apart from expressing a desire for the biggest and most powerful firework on the planet, I don't believe that Kim has the nowse to direct operations.

It might be that the big hats depend on the man from DelMonte to say yes, but Kim cannot have the ability to devise strategic plans capable of being carried out without them.
He's done pretty well so far, keeping the world at bay while his boffins develop nuclear weapons and delivery systems. And if any of his generals refuse to press the buttons they know exactly what will happen to them. They have seen it happen.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 18:58
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Do the Intel people have any way of calculating the mass of the dummy payload in that thing?

Without any significant mass within the nosecone its achieved range is meaningless.

Do they have any way of assessing what sort of nick the re-entry vehicle was in when it arrived at the surface?

If the weapon burns up on re-entry it's not going to be a nuke explosion, just an amorphous scattering of somewhat toxic crap over a huge area.

And then there's the accuracy. A weapon like that wouldn't be much use if it hits Caracas after being aimed at Houston.

Do the Koreans have a usable astro-optical navigation unit for mid-course guidance?

I remember during the Challenger seabed search and recovery one of the three top priority items sought was the astro nav device located just for'ard of the left-hand windshield. It was the same device as navigates Trident missiles mid-course and had a very high secrecy classification. Obtaining highly accurate multiple LOPs from astro observations at those speeds is a seriously non-trivial technical challenge. Does the Korean long range missile have an equivalent?

It took the Murricanes a thousand nuclear bomb tests to satisfy themselves that they'd got sufficient data and it took them ten or a hundred times as many missile launches to verify that they'd got that stuff sorted. And they had best German scientists that kidnapping and bribery could acquire.

The Koreans are only just beginning. Little baby steps. They've got a hell of a long way to go before they can earn themselves a credible independent nuclear deterrent against American aggression.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 20:32
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The Koreans have the Chinese (and, earlier, the Russians I believe) but the amount of transfer of information might be limited.

I have always been of the opinion that Russian technology is 'robust' - like their cars and trucks - and, I believe, their aircraft.

I wonder if NK has any 'self-thinking' scientists?
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 22:47
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Originally Posted by Cazalet33 View Post
LW50, see #2067 for comprehension.
I comprendo just fine, Caz, and repeat to you that the Japanese have no nukes. (Yet). I suggest either that you educate yourself at the link I provided, or in the future not assert that the Japanese would nuke anyone until they've decided that they are going to build some, and being the orderly sorts of people that they are, revoke their concurrence with the NPT. (Whether or not they choose to do that is an open question that their political folks alone can answer).
As to your jest on tools and talent: yeah, I suppose so.
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Old 2nd Dec 2017, 08:21
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Jihadi John, Korean version?
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20171201_43/
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Old 2nd Dec 2017, 11:45
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Oh great, now we will have churchilian doubles parading around poking sticks at Trump.

Will there be enough generals with notepads and pencils to cover these?
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Old 4th Dec 2017, 13:15
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...n-missile-test
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Old 4th Dec 2017, 13:21
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Yup. That's a shame.

and Reacher would stand out a bit, so that rules out Lee Child's creation.
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Old 4th Dec 2017, 13:29
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Interesting quote from that article:

North Korea's state-run media say the creation of a unit targeting the country's supreme leadership is a de facto declaration of war.
Seems they forgot that they are already at war with South Korea, as the Korean War didn't officially ever come to an end; officially there still exists a state of war between North and South Korea, all they have is a long standing ceasefire, in effect.
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Old 9th Dec 2017, 15:06
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Japan seeks longer-range cruise missiles amid North Korea threat - BBC News
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 02:00
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NK plussing up on the bio weapons as well.

Good thing they have rigorous safety protocols around their nuke and bio programs so at least we don't have to worry about anything going wrong there

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...879_story.html
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 13:21
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Do I detect a new 'dodgy dossier' being hyped up to justify KW2?
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 17:26
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Sallyann1234, the governments of South Korea and Japan have a significant input onto whether anything happens. The politics of this situation are not the same as the situation you are referring to, and I think it's a mistake to try to apply a cookie cutter as an analytical tool.
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 12:23
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So that's where Saddam Hid them!!
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 01:52
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Senator Graham plays the bookmaker on NK

...although his spread, ranging from 30 to 70 percent, seems to be rather wide.

Not sure if this type of pronouncement is part of a carefully orchestrated plan of pressure or he is really speaking his mind.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...-trump/548381/

...this sad drama between Augustus and Reinhold just keeps being cause for concern.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 00:09
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Kim Jong-un executes two senior officials after failed nuclear test.
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