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Old 30th Nov 2017, 16:42
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
Rather awkward position given the proximity of China and Russia but Trump is seething.
A tipping point will be reached if China does not act to rein in their little Tasmanian devil and the US will try to eliminate the threats in one quick go leaving a lot of smoke columns dotting the landscape.
Er, perhaps. But DT is not Tom Clancy. And how do you know that NK hasnít shipped, via diplomatic pouch, a nice present for Trump Towers, with a doomsday switch?

NK is a nuclear Ďpowerí, just like Israel, India, Pakistan and a few others. So what? They are not going to invade anybody with their nukes.

And they are not going to give up their nuclear deterrence, just ask Mouammar Quadafi or Saddam Hussain why that would be.

Just ignore the little guy, donít respond to his schoolyard taunts. Ignore him.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 16:45
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Just ignore the little guy, don’t respond to his schoolyard taunts. Ignore him.
That the mature intelligent approach.

Don't expect either of those attributes from the Chumpster. He's more likely to behave like an angry teenager with a gun.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 16:47
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Just ignore the little guy, donít respond to his schoolyard taunts. Ignore him.
It's that time of year again and Ralphie has a new present to share

perhaps he'll shoot his eye out?
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 16:47
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 View Post
No. It would not, unless the "few hundred miles off" was in the ocean in international waters. Mind you, a few hundred miles off in a southerly direction means that it lands in Mexico.
"Bad luck, you missed. We'll wait until your aim gets better."

I don't think so!
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 21:13
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The USA may chose to wait until NK has fired the first salvo in anger.
I doubt that the Japanese are willing to wait much longer. The Japanese have already amended their post WW2 Constitution. The leaders have just had an election that gives them a mandate to deal with NK using any and all means.
The Japanese will be not tolerate much more insolence .
The Irony here may well be that that Japanese may have left too much of their fighting DNA in Korea during their last expeditions through there .
Perhaps they will charge a stud fee the next expeditions through Korea
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 21:23
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The really major irony would be if they fired a salvo or more of nukes at the homeland of their oh-so-politely-named "comfortwomen".
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 21:30
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NK is just a pawn in a much bigger game being orchestrated by China(mostly) and Russia (along for the ride).

Sooner or later there will be an offer for NK to stop its nuclear ambitions in return for US removing its missile defense system and possibly more from ROK.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 21:36
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China(mostly) and Russia (along for the ride)
Those two countries are neighbours of Korea.

The Empire is not.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 21:40
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Caz, the Japanese have not yet established a nuclear capability, so them nuking the land of "comfort women" isn't a current option. (Whether or not they choose to go nuke on their own volition remains to be seen). Could they put nukes into the mix reasonably soon? Yeah, I'd say they've the talent and the tools to do so.


On the political end they'd need to (internally) reject the NPT, which they ratified in 1976. You may find the discussion and history of their opinions on that here, under this heading {Extension of Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty} to be of interest.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 21:53
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the Japanese have not yet established a nuclear capability
Neither have the Koreans.

[QUOTE]they've the talent and the tools to do so[QUOTE]

The Korean comfort women discovered that too. Somewhat to their discomfort.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 22:33
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Just ignore the little guy, don’t respond to his schoolyard taunts. Ignore him.
That is how I have proceeded until now.
He was a crazy, self-inflated nutter.


Now he's insane with soon to be launchable nukes.
To me, a large part of "insane" is unpredictability and all the dangers associated with that.
He's not playing by any rule book.
Just how far do we permit continued. step-by-step,enhanced armed missile technology. Where's the line?
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 22:41
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He was a crazy, self-inflated nutter.

Now he's insane with soon to be launchable nukes.
To me, a large part of "insane" is unpredictability and all the dangers associated with that.
That's a way harsh description of the flakey pudgy guy with the the dodgy hairdo and the ego inflated by his daddy's wealth and power.

Way harsh.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 22:42
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Hi Meadow, not sure which leader you are referring to?
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 22:47
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Originally Posted by Ethel the Aardvark View Post
Hi Meadow, not sure which leader you are referring to?
It's the one who sends weird messages to insult the other.

edit: Dammit, that's no help either.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 23:06
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LW50, see #2067 for comprehension.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 02:47
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Some may see him as a muse, something to chatter about over while making comparison's about this year's tea crop's.
I would the little stinker is more a threat to the peace and prosperity of China . Once he uses his Chinese launch vehicles that magically appeared in North Korea, in spite of harsh UN sanctions. All bets will be off and the factories that supplied those launch trucks will be targeted for destruction. My wag is a nuclear retaliation would be legal and thoroughly justified if he launches.
China has very little time left to save their peace and prosperity from the monster of their creation.
What will happen if the NK just decide to sell missiles instead of launching them ? and let another bad actor take the heat or release something
Horrible off a fishing boat mid Atlantic ?
All the chattering tea swilling is not going to put that "monkey"(animal of mischief in the Chinese zodiac) to bed.
Stalin would have known "What is to be done"
With Monkey.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 09:19
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It seems as if the balance of risk, between attacking North Korea to put an end to the Kim regime, vs. waiting this out to see if he calms down again, is shifting towards attack. The thing is that each time Kim gets riled up he is better-armed with nukes, when he seems to be making very rapid progress towards having a viable delivery system that can threaten the continental USA. Then it might be too late to do anything but live under threat of attack from a very unstable fellow, with that risk squared by having our own unstable President.

I read one interesting article that pointed out that Seoul has an extensive shelter system for its inhabitants, so that it's not as vulnerable to North Korean artillery as many think it is. A North Korean nuke, even just one, though ... who knows what that would mean?

Whichever way the dice fall one has to think of General Turgidson telling how we "might get our hair mussed," when that would mean "only" losing "ten to twenty million killed, tops."

Then there is that truism about opening a big can of whoop-ass, that you have to be careful not to get any on you. I don't think Donald Trump understands that one; I don't think they taught it to him during his time at that military academy.

One thing with this crisis is that it shows the failure of MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) as a way to prevent a nuclear exchange. There's no question here of mutual destruction, because it would be North Korea alone that would be destroyed if it attacked us with nuclear weapons. Merely our conventional weapons would suffice to destroy North Korea, but it would seem that this threat of destruction is not enough to prevent the use of nuclear weapons by Kim.

I wonder if decapitation would work, turning the little bastard into a grease spot the next time he's out there by the launch pad inspecting his next missile. That might be one option worth trying.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 10:36
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Originally Posted by chuks View Post
I wonder if decapitation would work, turning the little bastard into a grease spot the next time he's out there by the launch pad inspecting his next missile. That might be one option worth trying.
It would work because the whole NK system revolves around that one central character. Remove that and it will all collapse.
But you have to be 100% certain of a quick kill.
If you miss him that will justify his claim that his nukes are for defence, and give him the justification he needs to let them off.
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 13:39
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Yeah, and it could be one of his doubles out there, so then what? Still, it might be worth trying.

Blame it on someone going rogue, launching a precision-guided missile on his own because his boyfriend just jilted him ... something like that. You know, the US Air Force ....
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Old 1st Dec 2017, 16:16
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
It would work because the whole NK system revolves around that one central character. Remove that and it will all collapse.
I'm not sure.
The big hats would see it as an opportunity to take control (which they already have of course).
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