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Old 26th Aug 2014, 16:31
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Lessons will be learnt (Rotherham child abuse scandal)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-28939089

Is there a crime of aiding and abetting child abusers ?

How these scum (Police, Council) live with themselves I do not know.

And they are scum.

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Old 26th Aug 2014, 16:42
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It has been said that no action can be taken against the senior police officers who 'condoned' this activity (or at least turned a blind eye whilst knowing fully what was happening).
One father who attempted to get his young daughter from premises where she was being abused was told to 'leave it' and threatened with arrest.

It seems that the 'authorities' were afraid to intervene for risk of being called racist.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 16:50
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The point I made on the discussion about ID cards applies here :
The fluffies do everything they can to emasculate the forces of law
There are cases, such as this one, where the police should take the side of the innocent, but the scum of the earth seem to have more right to 'protection'.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 16:52
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"It seems that the 'authorities' were afraid to intervene for risk of being called racist."

Absolutely no excuse. You wear the Uniform, you take the money, do your job.

And these are children for the Love of God. These Council Officers and Police that refused to intervene or investigate, are they not under automatic suspicion that they had a part in it ?

I cannot help but think there is something rotten is in this land and it runs deep.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 16:55
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How apt this seems:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

Edmund Burke
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So Nick Griffin of the BNP and the ex Labour MP for Keithly were not wrong when they raised this some years ago. They were vilified and castigated for raising the subject and about the ethnicity and heritage of the abusers. The reports author was quite clear on SKY News, that the abuse was perpetrated by members of the Pakistani heritage community.

After this report all who were involved in the decision making about these children need to be reported to any professional body that they are registered with, the CPS have to investigate all police officers involved on suspicion of collusion in the commission of a criminal offence, misfeasance in public office and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. I include all social workers, doctors nurses and council officers in any legal action.

The CPS have to have a specialist team to investigate this report and prosecute any and all involved.

[B]Child abuse is a criminal offence not a lifestyle choice as some of these so called professionals have alluded to in the past[/B]
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There is a whole strata at the top executive level who are all but untouchable no matter what the disaster they preside over, and if heaven forbid falling on their sword is completely unavoidable they walk out the door with a huge golden goodbye generally straight into another top job after a suitably decent time spent with their families and been forgotten by the media and Joe public of course.
There is also the unspoken reason for reluctance to pursue these cases and that was PC,the Elephant in the room was and is the ethnicity of the majority of those involved.
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Originally Posted by ExRAFRadar View Post
How apt this seems:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

Edmund Burke
Men who do nothing when they have knowledge of abuse such as what happened in The Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire, cannot, by any measure, be called "good".
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Strange (haha) that the major broadsheets such as the Guardian or Telegraph are allowing comment on the story.
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There is also the unspoken reason for reluctance to pursue these cases and that was PC, the Elephant in the room was and is the ethnicity of the majority of those involved.
That about sums up what is wrong in the world and with Political Correctness, when PC trumps going after people for a crime because of "cultural sensitivity" and not wanting to inflame the race debate !!!
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Strange (haha) that the major broadsheets such as the Guardian or Telegraph are allowing comment on the story.
Isn't there a rather crucial three letter word left out .........? (Clue ..... begins with n and ends with t.)
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Indeed Cape, my grammatical error, unfortunately written in anger brings intemperance.

Chief Superindent from South Yorkshire Police on the hook on Channel 4 news, will not give a straight answer. Trying wriggle off the hook about ethnicity of the perpetrators.
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What a shit place for children to to live, with useless police, councillors and carers
Men, and we know from where they originate, see young vulnerable girls as fodder for their depravity and apart from the odd conviction they operate with impunity. One cannot help but feel ashamed that one's country allows this to happen. The England, I grew up in, is no more!
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Men, and we know from where they originate, see young vulnerable girls as fodder for their depravity
goudie

I think you forgot the words "boys and" girls !

They don't seem to differentiate !


Stanwell

"Even our usual media muck-rakers are not going near it at the moment.
Wonder why? "


Er, I think you'll find quite a bit of coverage in the SMH and the Age at least - and probably a few others as well. ABC 774 often has stories on it.

Cardinal Pell and the Catholic church have been getting an absolute thrashing over what occurred and for once Cardinal Pell, who is one of the "protected species and "untouchable" has been carpeted well and good and rightly so. Which is why he was probably "promoted" from Archbishop of Sydney to the Vatican to get him out of Aus, where he has since been promoted again

Some of the stories on the ABC of what these supposed carers did have been horrific.


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Did you see the report on the Vietnamese man who got busted coming back to OZ who had
images of boys on his mobile phone ? He actually stated that this was "normal" behavior in
his homeland and (I quote) "A harmless custom" !!!

"
A Vietnamese man charged with importing child pornography through Melbourne Airport on his mobile phone has told authorities taking the photographs was a harmless custom in his country.
A Melbourne court heard Si Tan Quan claimed it was a "common custom in Vietnam to take nude photos of boys because you are proud of them".
Mr Quan, 39, said after his arrest on Sunday he took photographs of the boy, aged about eight, because there was pride and happiness "that he was a boy".
Melbourne Magistrates Court was told on Monday he was arrested and charged after customs officers viewed images on his phone of a child in a "sexually explicit pose".
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Chief Superindent from South Yorkshire Police on the hook on Channel 4 news, will not give a straight answer. Trying wriggle off the hook about ethnicity of the perpetrators.
Isn't this exactly why we have elected PCC's? So they can hold senior police officers to account?? Whoever the PCC is for South Yorkshire should make it clear that this Chief Superintendent no longer holds their confidence. And if the copper doesn't go, then they should be sacked.

This is assuming, of course, that the PCC isn't some local party political hack who was part of the problem to start with......
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 20:48
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Before diving intrepidly into the shallow waters of the main subject, can anyone advise me whether the OP's title "Lessons will be learnt" should have been "Lessons will be learned"? Or can either be used interchangeably? I'm not being antagonistic, I left skool at 13 and 40 years later, I'm still willing to learn...?!

I fail to see how anyone here could really confuse PC "Political Correctness" in this context, like our esteemed tony draper who wrote:
There is also the unspoken reason for reluctance to pursue these cases and that was PC,the Elephant in the room was and is the ethnicity of the majority of those involved.
With "racism" or any fear of being considered "racist", this supposedly being a primary reason or other excuse for those with knowledge of such sexual-abuse, not to have made their suspicions known, or pursued them to the best of their abilities. It would certainly be "the 1st time" I've ever heard of any UK Police Force ever generally "holding back" or whatever, from exercising the maximum reasonable force against UK minorities in the past, whether that was unreasonable "stop and search" or more justifiable controls during rioting and other unrest etc.

Nah. Quite a few people have their very own personal agendas here. They couldn't give a f*** about the estimated 1,400 children affected over the decades if they were honest. What is important to note is that the "predominantly Pakistani-origin perpetrators" of all this sexual abuse have over recent years been brought to justice nevertheless. It remains to be seen whether all those "that turned a blind eye to all the accusations etc." over the decades, whether employed by the council or in the police etc., however low-placed or in positions of real power and influence will be made to answer seriously. "PC is not a reasonable answer or excuse!"
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South Yorkshire police yet again involved in even more bad stuff against people. What a fantastic Police Force - NOT.
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Much outrage being expressed on Newsnight tonight but I reckon heads will be kept low for a while,a few spear carriers might get the black spot but the top buck earners will continue to earn the top bucks,the buck not stopping with them of course, "I am in charge but I am not responsible"
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 22:04
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I've a problem with the phrase 'lessons will be learnt'. How to go about guarding our young from evil is practiced daily across the land and I'm sure there are shining examples out there.

So the phrase should more properly be 'lessons not learnt'.

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Odd that the report couldn't be written without any mention of ethnicity. I can't see any reason for not omitting it.
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