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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:07   #1 (permalink)
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Scottish independence Hamsterwheel.

A place to keep all the pish on Scottish independence so it doesn't infect anywhere else.

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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:15   #2 (permalink)

 
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I was just about to start one myself.

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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:21   #3 (permalink)
 
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Threat to the pensioner vote.

BBC News - Scottish independence: Think tank concern over 'Yes' state pensions
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:30   #4 (permalink)
 
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Here we go round the mulberry bush
The mulberry bush, the mulberry bush
Here we go round the mulberry bush
So early in the morning
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:43   #5 (permalink)
 
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Let's keep it simple.... here is the most of the thread in one post....


YES - We don't want Conservative Governments all the time
NO - Errr, the last Government was Labour and this one is a coalition

YES - We can live off the proceeds of oil
NO - Err, isn't the oil running out and the income received each year declining?

YES - We will be better off.
NO - How? The White Paper tells us how much tax will be cut and how spending will be increased, but that only equals deficit. To break even then there will have to be higher taxes or less spending.

YES - We will keep the Pound Sterling.
NO - Err, no. You have been told by the leaders of all the major UK parties that will not happen. Also, the strong feeling against such a move by the people of the rUK will not allow that to happen. Feel free to use the Pound Sterling as an outside nation but not under any currency union.

YES - We will stay in the EU, we are already members.
NO - Err, no. The UK is a member state, if you choose to leave the UK then you leave the EU until you reapply and are accepted in as a new state.

YES - We can afford to go independent.
NO - How do you know that? The SNP will not give the costing that they promised they were working on 2 years ago.

YES - La, la, la, la, la
NO - Exactly!! Living in Lala Land!


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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:45   #6 (permalink)

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Wouldn't the pound Stirling be more of a Scottish currency?
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:47   #7 (permalink)
 
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The pound Stirling will consist of 100 John O' Groats.
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:57   #8 (permalink)
 
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Wouldn't the pound Stirling be more of a Scottish currency?
They are welcome to it.

But we'll keep the pound Sterling thank you.
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 11:29   #9 (permalink)
 
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Who did start - and then it seems delete - the last thread?

Will they say why they deleted it I wonder?
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 12:16   #10 (permalink)

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The Pound Sterling has a curious etymology. It's from "Pfund Õsterling" - the pound of the eastern people.

There's nothing to stop iScotland using the Pound Sterling as its national currency - but the ScotNatBank won't have any influence on fiscal policy, and unless proper arrangements are made, won't be able to issue sterling notes.

While I agree it's primarily the choice of the Scottish people whether to stay in the Union or go it alone, I do worry that there's more invective and spin than genuine information being put about.

I would hope the Treasury knows which way the cash flows between Scotland and the rest of the UK. Perhaps they've told us, but I've not seen it. If it's towards Scotland, then iScotland is heading for a cashflow problem. If it's the other way, then iSalmond will have lots of cash to play with.
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Don't see how they can stop any country from using the £ if they want to.

Don't some other countries use the US $?
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 12:28   #12 (permalink)

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Exactly so.
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 13:05   #13 (permalink)
 
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Well it didn't take long for my point about repetitiveness to be proven did it? At 1043 I (tongue planted firmly in cheek) wrote...

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YES - We will keep the Pound Sterling.
NO - Err, no. You have been told by the leaders of all the major UK parties that will not happen. Also, the strong feeling against such a move by the people of the rUK will not allow that to happen. Feel free to use the Pound Sterling as an outside nation but not under any currency union.
And then, less than 2 hours later, this...
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Don't see how they can stop any country from using the £ if they want to.

Don't some other countries use the US $?
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 13:06   #14 (permalink)
 
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There isnt anything to stop iScotland using the pound, what it will not have however is the bank of England as lender of last resort
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"Don't see how they can stop any country from using the £ if they want to."
Using the pound is not the issue. The question is, should there be another financial crisis (and remember, a number of major financial institutions are legally registered in Edinburgh), who could or would step in? The Bank of England won't..... The lack of ultimate guarantor makes Banks in Scotland inherently risky, so cost of credit will be much higher.
Another detail. If rUK economics go in a direction that causes B of E to move interest rates, they'll pay no attention to whether that is good/bad for Scotland.
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 13:34   #16 (permalink)
 
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JFZ90,

I created it and I deleted it.

It was frankly embarrassing.

I guess the Mods were right and it was too early for another Indy thread.
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 13:36   #17 (permalink)
 
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There isnt anything to stop iScotland using the pound, what it will not have however is the bank of England as lender of last resort
Out of interest just how often in the bank's history has that been enacted?
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The pound Stirling will consist of 100 John O' Groats.
Like it, I'd personally favour the bawbee
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 13:52   #19 (permalink)
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UK Polling Report

Here is a active ongoing poll reference site.

Just for those that missed it the current poll being sited by the yes is a panelbase poll which is a paid service which is generally used by housewifes and unemployed to get some extra cash.

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NB – Panelbase/SNP question was asked after other questions that could have had a potential skewing affect
The mori professional poll was very different result.

The stupidity of trying to use such a poll as a major gain is extremely embarrassing.
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"The stupidity of trying to use such a poll as a major gain is extremely embarrassing."


To anyone with half a brain and no blinkers.
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