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Old 6th May 2016, 18:31
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Quand les poulons ont les dents.
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Old 6th May 2016, 18:38
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Old 6th May 2016, 19:59
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Can't recall when but I think I said a few posts back that we would see SNP probably do a wee bit better this time at Holyrood then fall to long-term oblivion.


Sorry - didn't realise it would start quite so soon.
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Old 6th May 2016, 20:05
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Originally Posted by d88 View Post
the mood music on independence has changed to such an extent the SNP call and unite the Scottish people with a win in another independence referendum
Tom,

The Scottish people won with the result of the last neverendum fella, with oil at its current price imagine being Indy now
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Old 6th May 2016, 22:30
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The biggest threat to the Scottish economy right now is the fear and consequences of Brexit. The people of Scotland are watching with interest the unedifying sight of the Tories down south, hell bent on dictating to the rest of the UK their narrow divisive brand of English nationalism.

As I said earlier, Brexit is a win win for the SNP. If the NO (immigrant) camp do win, expect fireworks up here.
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Old 6th May 2016, 22:39
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Originally Posted by d88 View Post
As I said earlier, Brexit is a win win for the SNP.
How do you figure?
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Old 7th May 2016, 09:25
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The Scottish people won with the result of the last neverendum fella, with oil at its current price imagine being Indy now
But we all know that price won't stay. I haven't been tracking the Brent price but I have just paid 10p /l at the pump more than a few weeks ago. It will never be as cheap again.
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Old 7th May 2016, 09:42
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But we all know that price won't stay. I haven't been tracking the Brent price but I have just paid 10p /l at the pump more than a few weeks ago. It will never be as cheap again.
I agree but as the whole Neverendum thing was based on $100 ish a barrel the Scot's with their very wise decision to say NO certainly dodged an unsurvivable bullet.
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Old 7th May 2016, 10:33
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Originally Posted by d88 View Post
The people of Scotland are watching with interest the unedifying sight of the Tories down south, hell bent on dictating to the rest of the UK their narrow divisive brand of English nationalism.
Is that really how you see UK Politics? the "people of Scotland" on one hand and "the Tories down south" on the other?
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Old 7th May 2016, 11:17
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I wouldn't bet against that by the time of the next Scottish Parliament election, the mood music on independence has changed to such an extent the SNP call and unite the Scottish people with a win in another independence referendum
Oh PLEASE let it happen, pretty please, I do so want tom to be happy.
And me and lots of English people
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Old 7th May 2016, 12:10
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D88 - last month a 15 billion Scottish deficit was published,in our present position that is serviced by the UK population of 66 million - how do you think the Scottish population of 6 million would cope? Next year the deficit will exceed 17 billion,now that The SNP has more control over taxation what do you think they will do to reduce it?
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Old 7th May 2016, 13:58
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A Scot lecturing the English on nationalism? That's just hilarious. Do explain what this narrow divisive English nationalism is precisely.

Don't the English have:
-the lowest public spend per capita
-the lowest NHS spend per capita
-the lowest spend per capita on education
Than any country in the United Kingdom?

Additionally have:
-no right national identity, nothing is 'English'. Anything here must be 'British'
-no parliament
-no free prescriptions
-no free tuition fees

Don't look at London and thinks it's all rosy. London does get a lot of money but then Barnett's billions skip huge swathes of England and there's some real deprivation down here.

As I've said before, get down to the core and it's nothing to do with going independent. The separatists share one thing in common and that's the hatred of the English. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Old 7th May 2016, 20:53
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As I said earlier, Brexit is a win win for the SNP. If the NO (immigrant) camp do win, expect fireworks up here.

It is all very odd. It always struck me that Scotland was one of the countries least suited to membership of the EU.
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Old 7th May 2016, 21:54
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I agree. An independent Scotalnd could forget being a high-spending socialist paradise if it were allowed to join the EU.

I still can't get my head around the logic. Separatists want to leave the UK, a nation state more than 300 years old, in which a common language is spoken, where people of the four constituent countries have happily intermingled, where there is much in common between the four and where the four have fought a war of national survival twice in the 20th Century. And for what? To rejoin the EU after gaining independence and be a serf to the Franco-German axis, to be like Greece and be told how to run their country by a bunch of unelected, undismissable bureaucrats?

Weird.
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Old 7th May 2016, 23:23
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Good try but the SNP increased their vote, the division is actually getting wider . Davidson herself is cock-a-hoop as a staunch feminist, she finally realised on the campaign trial that riding a bull is actually quite good fun.


on other news, people are begining to question why you never see Ruth Davidson and Kim Jon Un in the same room.

Kim Jung Un



Ruth Davidson

Tom, you do realise that there is a fair chance that the MINORITY snp group in the SP may in fact find that their Nicola Sturgeon finds herself turfed oot of her cosy First Minister position.

Or to put it another way



HUH?


Ain't democracy BRILLIANT.

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Old 8th May 2016, 07:17
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you do realise that there is a fair chance that the MINORITY snp group in the SP may in fact find that their Nicola Sturgeon finds herself turfed oot of her cosy First Minister position.
You do realise the SNP successfully ran a minority government after the 2007 election ? You do realise that no opposition party will seriously challenge Nicola Sturgeon as FM, as even they realise that the SNP racked up more votes than the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems combined in the constituency vote. The people have spoken and as you say. the democratic will of the Scottish people is for Nicola Sturgeon to be First Minister .

If you were abreast of the latest developments, the other opposition parties have shunned the Tories and even funnier yesterday was the FM putting Ruth Davidson back into her little box and sending her hamewards to think again



A Scot lecturing the English on nationalism? That's just hilarious. Do explain what this narrow divisive English nationalism is precisely.
I'm glad you find it amusing, I don't. In fact I find it quite alarming that the Brexit campaign is bringing to the surface the odious sight of narrow English nationalism to the fore.

As I've said before, get down to the core and it's nothing to do with going independent. The separatists share one thing in common and that's the hatred of the English. Nothing more and nothing less.
Oh dear, what a lot of absolute tosh. A classic case of lazy stereotyping. I've never hated anyone just because they live in a geographic location and I'd certainly have nothing to do with the SNP if they did either. Try educating yourself before coming out with ill-informed comments.

As for the rest of your comments, IF those south of the border wanted their own parliament , free prescriptions etc then start CAMPAIGNING and lobby your OWN politicians for it. If you sit on your proverbial backside and just whinge, then you'll never get anything. As for the capital spend then again not true, London has the highest capital spend.
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Old 8th May 2016, 08:43
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I'm glad you find it amusing, I don't. In fact I find it quite alarming that the Brexit campaign is bringing to the surface the odious sight of narrow English nationalism to the fore.
Pot to kettle: You're black, over.

Brexit has nothing whatsoever to do with English nationalism which, in any case, is no more or less odious than the Scottish variety.
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Old 8th May 2016, 10:56
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I'm glad you find it amusing, I don't. In fact I find it quite alarming that the Brexit campaign is bringing to the surface the odious sight of narrow English nationalism to the fore.
With regards to irony on Prune that is an all time classic
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Old 8th May 2016, 13:17
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"sending her hamewards to think again "

followed by


"I've never hated anyone just because they live in a geographic location and I'd certainly have nothing to do with the SNP if they did either. Try educating yourself before coming out with ill-informed comments."

Classic nationalistic lines indeed.
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Old 8th May 2016, 14:07
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oh dear, desperation levels now, Ruth Davidson is from Edinburgh . SCOTLAND. Meanwhile these anti Scottish comments from an earlier post (which you've chosen to ignore , how very convenient. )

Oh PLEASE let it happen, pretty please, I do so want tom to be happy.
And me and lots of English people
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